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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2013, 08:09:02 PM »
The Canon 24-70 f4 L IS seems to be treated like the red headed stepchild on the internet. It's not easy to be the little brother to the Canon 24-70 F2.8 II lens. I first borrowed 24-70 F4 lens for a 2 week trip to Glacier National Park. The lens was superb on my 5D3.  Easy to hike with and IS. I liked it so much that I bought one when I got home. On the 2 copies that I have used of this lens, both have been very sharp, fast accurate AF and great IS.
 I have used the  Canon 24-70 F2.8 II and IMO the 24-70 F4 gives up little in IQ to his bigger brother.
I have found in my use of this lens that the 50mm focal point is quite contrary to popular opinion on the interenet, the 2 copies of this lens that I have used were/are very sharp.
This Canon 24-70 F4 L IS plus my Canon 70-200 F2.8 II make for a superb combination. Same filter size. Both have Canon's newest IS. Superb image quality and sharpness.
If you don't really need the f2.8 aperature and want IS, this is a lens you really should try.
The much loved Canon 24-105 of course is another option to consider, especially given the price of it now. I chose the Canon 24-70 F4 over the 24-105 for it's much better handling of distortion at 24mm and upgraded IS.
I dont miss the extra reach of the 24-105 because I carry the 70-200 for that. That's my real world review of this lens.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2013, 08:09:02 PM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2013, 08:12:27 PM »
The Canon 24-70 f4 L IS seems to be treated like the red headed stepchild on the internet. It's not easy to be the little brother to the Canon 24-70 F2.8 II lens. I first borrowed 24-70 F4 lens for a 2 week trip to Glacier National Park. The lens was superb on my 5D3.  Easy to hike with and IS. I liked it so much that I bought one when I got home. On the 2 copies that I have used of this lens, both have been very sharp, fast accurate AF and great IS.
 I have used the  Canon 24-70 F2.8 II and IMO the 24-70 F4 gives up little in IQ to his bigger brother.
I have found in my use of this lens that the 50mm focal point is quite contrary to popular opinion on the interenet, the 2 copies of this lens that I have used were/are very sharp.
This Canon 24-70 F4 L IS plus my Canon 70-200 F2.8 II make for a superb combination. Same filter size. Both have Canon's newest IS. Superb image quality and sharpness.
If you don't really need the f2.8 aperature and want IS, this is a lens you really should try.
The much loved Canon 24-105 of course is another option to consider, especially given the price of it now. I chose the Canon 24-70 F4 over the 24-105 for it's much better handling of distortion at 24mm and upgraded IS.
I dont miss the extra reach of the 24-105 because I carry the 70-200 for that. That's my real world review of this lens.

Perfect. Thanks!

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2013, 08:29:35 PM »
I really think Canon should have improved the 24-105 f4 L and left this one on the shelf. The only appeal of the range is if you have a 2.8. At this price I would rather invest in the Tamron 24-70 f2.8.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2013, 09:43:03 AM »
I really think Canon should have improved the 24-105 f4 L and left this one on the shelf. The only appeal of the range is if you have a 2.8. At this price I would rather invest in the Tamron 24-70 f2.8.

Yeah, and with the Sigma 24-105 out now receiving excellent reviews I see the place for this lens a little less. *except* for how compact it is.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2013, 12:41:43 PM »
With rumors of a 24-70/2.8 with IS coming out at some point next year, it seems that canon might do a similar thing as with the 70-200: available in many flavors and as many price points.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2013, 01:11:39 PM »
With rumors of a 24-70/2.8 with IS coming out at some point next year, it seems that canon might do a similar thing as with the 70-200: available in many flavors and as many price points.

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And none of them really cheap
so there is enough space for Sigma, Tamron
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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2013, 02:51:05 PM »
I really think Canon should have improved the 24-105 f4 L and left this one on the shelf. The only appeal of the range is if you have a 2.8. At this price I would rather invest in the Tamron 24-70 f2.8.

Why is the only appeal of this range if it has f/2.8?????????

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2013, 02:51:05 PM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2013, 02:55:47 PM »
I really think Canon should have improved the 24-105 f4 L and left this one on the shelf. The only appeal of the range is if you have a 2.8. At this price I would rather invest in the Tamron 24-70 f2.8.

Yeah, and with the Sigma 24-105 out now receiving excellent reviews I see the place for this lens a little less. *except* for how compact it is.

So far the Sigma has had one great review.... from the same place that says the 70-200 2.8 II delivers the worst 200mm f/2.8 performance of all the Canon 70-200 lenses.... and the 70-300 non-L beats the 70-300L and 300 f/4L.... and the 16-35 II has the sharpest FF edges at f/2.8....

Don't forget how they rank lenses either, they take one aperture and focal length, whatever performs thebest (which strangely seems to be wide open 99% of the time) and compare. So you could have a sigma doing well middle range wide open but worse in other regards (like say at 24mm where it's tricky to do well on FF) getting ranked higher, for instance.

I mean maybe the sigma will prove to be good, but I'm still wary of it based upon their own MTF charts and early sample photos.

It is also larger and heavier than the 24-70 II 2.8! despite only offering f/4.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2013, 03:00:51 PM »

So, basically this lens is a solution in search of a problem.

No, it's a lens that solves a problem.

The older 24-70/105 type lenses never delivered a satisfactory 24mm on FF if you cared about edge to edge landscape detail and reasonable freedom from PF of branches against clouds and such. This one does.... while also being easily the smallest and lightest of them all (other than the tamron 28-75 2.8) and IS.

The only other one that seems to fully deliver at 24mm is the 24-70 II 2.8, which costs a LOT more (and has no IS). Although perhaps the new tamron isn't too bad.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2013, 03:05:26 PM »
PROS
"AF"

CONS
"Distortion across the focal range, specifically at 24mm
Awkward macro mode"

Those seem like weird cons to me. None of the others offer the macro option at all no matter what you do and how hard is it to flip the macro switch and zoom into macro? And yeah it has distortion at 24mm but it also has the LEAST distortion at 24mm of ANY 24-70/105 type zoom, so compared to a prime it is a con, but it seems unfair to not also mention that compared to other zooms it's actually the best.

OTOH, the AF seemed merely average to me for an L and not a huge PRO (not a CON either though).

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2013, 03:16:30 PM »
I'm guessing Canon were unable to produce the improvements seen in the 24-70 f4L if they had given it the 24-105 range without the lens having to retail as the level of the 24-70II.

All the stuff I've seen on the Sigma 24-105 suggests they can't either.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2013, 03:22:59 PM »
I'm guessing Canon were unable to produce the improvements seen in the 24-70 f4L if they had given it the 24-105 range without the lens having to retail as the level of the 24-70II.

Given the level of engineering expertise Canon has, I somehow doubt that - but I find it much more likely they want people to have more reason to buy a "natural" focal length addon of 70-200 or 70-300 ... with the overlapping 24-105 you can do ok, but as stated above a lot of times 24-70 is too short for a complete setup.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2013, 03:40:08 PM »
I'm guessing Canon were unable to produce the improvements seen in the 24-70 f4L if they had given it the 24-105 range without the lens having to retail as the level of the 24-70II.

Given the level of engineering expertise Canon has, I somehow doubt that - but I find it much more likely they want people to have more reason to buy a "natural" focal length addon of 70-200 or 70-300 ... with the overlapping 24-105 you can do ok, but as stated above a lot of times 24-70 is too short for a complete setup.

So why introduce the 24-105 in the first place ?

 I'm sure you're right regarding their engineering expertise, but would it be (financially) worthwhile for them ? That's the point.

Incidentally Roger at Lens Rentals stated he'd never seen a lens with so many element adjustments, so it's clearly a complicated little beast. I wonder if this convoluted set up is responsible for the early copies testing little better than the 24-105.


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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2013, 03:40:08 PM »

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2013, 03:45:42 PM »
So why introduce the 24-105 in the first place?

My only guess it were other times back then when Canon had a different marketing approach, they wanted a complete ff 5d2 solution with one lens to keep the system affordable. Not that everyone and his cat has a cheaper 6d ff camera and Canon is on the money grab they probably feel customers can be nudged into buying two lenses.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2013, 04:03:22 PM »
So why introduce the 24-105 in the first place?

My only guess it were other times back then when Canon had a different marketing approach, they wanted a complete ff 5d2 solution with one lens to keep the system affordable. Not that everyone and his cat has a cheaper 6d ff camera and Canon is on the money grab they probably feel customers can be nudged into buying two lenses.

The 24-105 was introduced with the original 5D in 2005.

The 24-105 vs 24-70 L IS really is a matter of personal preference. Greater range vs subtly better resolution. I have both ( through Building Panoramics ) and I'm torn between the two. The new lens is definitely better but as a general purpose 'do everything' lens I use 105 a lot.

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Re: Review - Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2013, 04:03:22 PM »