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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2013, 11:08:22 AM »
I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2013, 11:08:22 AM »

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2013, 11:14:30 AM »
I understand that we all have different needs, but personally, I get frustrated from the eternal incremental upgrades.
This thread again reminded me to go out and shoot instead of spending all day chasing dreams :)


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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2013, 11:17:35 AM »
Reminds me of my 3D setup.  Just add two wireless shutters on the same channel and you're there.

I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2013, 11:21:35 AM »
oh that will make some people unhappy.....

but maybe all this points to a 180µm process in 2014...
the big MP camera and the 7D MK2 both with a new sensor design made with a new manufacturing process.

prototypes could be out... but for mass manufacturing canon needs to build new factorys or update existing ones. and that takes some time.


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The same source does say “several lenses will be coming in 2013″.

well can he be a bit more vague?
what lenses?

+1, same guess when I read it. So there is real joy in the waiting. Wonder what else will come out by 2015 and further down the road.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #49 on: May 06, 2013, 11:28:46 AM »
Somewhere in my mind I have the feeling Canon might not be doing the 0.18 micron process at all, but instead going directly to the next one (0.12, 0.09 or 0.065 maybe?), and that is why they have such problems in getting it to roll.

It makes sense doing something like that when you have your own factories and do not want to upgrade them too often. Going to 0.18, just to do it all over again in 2 years? I don't think so. But, leapfrogging the competition and take them by surprise, and in the same time prolonging the active time of the process platform? Yes, I think I'll vote for that.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2013, 11:35:44 AM »
No problemo, will wait till next year
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2013, 12:15:03 PM »
So what is the best available guidance on when the 70D will be announced?  April 23d is long past.  What's the best guess now?

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2013, 12:15:03 PM »

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2013, 12:22:49 PM »
Sigh... no new 7D2 to take pictures of Fluffy with.... I was looking forward to posting ever higher resolution pictures of Fluffy on facebook.....
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2013, 12:28:15 PM »
I guess it is still selling well. I suspect they will not introduce replacement till the sales do not drop considerably.
I doubt that delay is a case of improving the model. Three years is long enough for a company like Canon to design a replacement.

I personally am not going to (most likely) ever buy a crop sensor camera again so this delay does not bother me.

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2013, 12:30:45 PM »
All the 7D really needed was a better sensor. Otherwise, Near-Perfect camera.

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2013, 12:57:46 PM »
Wow, they're really milking the 18mp sensor huh ?

This rumor proves the contrary - Canon will release the 70d this year with the updated 18mp sensor (i.e. with af pixels for lv, better noise pattern, less banding) and throw everything they have at it like gps & wifi, improved af/fps (but below current 7d).

But even Canon seems to think that they cannot get away with a 7d2 w/o significant sensor improvement, and since they don't have this sensor atm (proof: 6d) they'll delay another year.

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #56 on: May 06, 2013, 01:16:47 PM »
Somewhere in my mind I have the feeling Canon might not be doing the 0.18 micron process at all, but instead going directly to the next one (0.12, 0.09 or 0.065 maybe?), and that is why they have such problems in getting it to roll.

It makes sense doing something like that when you have your own factories and do not want to upgrade them too often. Going to 0.18, just to do it all over again in 2 years? I don't think so. But, leapfrogging the competition and take them by surprise, and in the same time prolonging the active time of the process platform? Yes, I think I'll vote for that.

Sounds reasonable to me.... Even if the next sensor is at .18 microns, it would still make sense to be replacing the current machines with those capable of even finer resolution so the next couple of improvements will require a minimum of retooling.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2013, 01:45:31 PM »
I guess i'll be hanging on to my 7D for a little bit longer. There are some items that I would love to see updated, but it still holds its own, even against the new Nikon D7100. Especially for sports/wildlife. 2 Card slots would be nice though.
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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #57 on: May 06, 2013, 01:45:31 PM »

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2013, 02:25:45 PM »
Hopefully it means they are holding off the big ones for a new process that won't get stomped by Exmor.


oh that will make some people unhappy.....

but maybe all this points to a 180µm process in 2014...
the big MP camera and the 7D MK2 both with a new sensor design made with a new manufacturing process.

prototypes could be out... but for mass manufacturing canon needs to build new factorys or update existing ones. and that takes some time.


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The same source does say “several lenses will be coming in 2013″.

well can he be a bit more vague?
what lenses?

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2013, 02:26:56 PM »
Wow, they're really milking the 18mp sensor huh ?

I think they sat around too long and are now scrambling to catch up again with sensor tech and are now getting bitten a bit by their conservative game of the milk the cows.

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Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2013, 02:26:56 PM »