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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2013, 09:38:47 AM »
That is too big to be the camera. If you don't want to have any black anywhere. You need to have either enough white cards to reflect, or shoot inside a shooting cone. Anyway, some black is also good because it add contrast to something otherwise would be flat. If you believe is the camera, just put a little red piece of cardboard on the side of the lense and look if you see it. My guess it is will be just a red point because of the curvature of the object. I usually use a huge white card with a little hole for the lens. That hole should not be more than a tiny dot on the jewelry. 
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2013, 09:43:44 AM »
There's filters on our internet at work so wherever you've linked them photos from I can't see them to ascertain your lighting set up :(
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2013, 09:48:00 AM »
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"the second one though, the black line going all around the ring is the damn camera"

It can't be, it is a reflection of the camera and the scene around it, the edge of the table and studio etc, the angle of reflection can only equal the angle of incidence, the camera would need to be huge to take up that much "horizon". You can't have used a hole in white paper for that shot, if you had, as you have said, you can only get a dot, which is comparatively easy to remove in post.

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2013, 09:55:19 AM »
@LewisShermer: erm... yes... it's a light box - costs a lot of money as well!
oooh... OMG, those pics are just amazing
+ thanks for the advice - golden nuggets of help there

You can't have used a hole in white paper for that shot, if you had, as you have said, you can only get a dot, which is comparatively easy to remove in post.
no... i was misleading in what i said
i did use a paper with a hole in for other shots - but not the ones i showed off

@bbasiaga: mirror is an interesting idea - just not sure if it will work!?

@victorwol: great comments... will follow the advice

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2013, 10:44:31 AM »
There was some great advice on this topic in the book "Lighting for Digital Photography: From Snapshots to Great Shots" by Syl Arena. He says when shooting highly reflective subjects like glass, jewelry, etc. you should "light what the objects sees" rather than the object itself. For example point your light/flash at a reflector next to, above or behind your subject and let the reflected light hit the jewelry. Combined with some fill this has worked great for me shooting metallic stuff.

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2013, 10:50:53 AM »
a 60D and the 100mm is ideal.

for starters, lay a piece of white paper or card down on a table up to the edge then lay out your jewellery and compose your shot.

what flash equipment do you have?
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2013, 10:53:44 AM »
this is one of the setups I use to photograph my wife jewelry...
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« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2013, 10:55:24 AM »
and for bottles..

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2013, 11:17:18 AM »
Or perhaps with a very dedicated light setup you can eliminate reflecting light that hits the camera (i.e., the camera stays in the dark).

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2013, 12:06:39 PM »
Buy the book Photography:Light, Science & Magic.  It will answer all of your questions and questions to those questions in exhausting detail.
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2013, 01:16:36 PM »
@Omar. I have been doing table top motion photography for many years, as well as motion picture lighting for cars and other very reflective objects over a period of 25 years. In looking at the 2 photos of the rings, it appears to me, that you are trying to get to a very white world. That will result in a pretty flat image. Unless you add some kind of silver reflective material or some hard light for a few "pings" in the ring. If that is what you are after then you need to build a white cave around the ring and it needs to be lit fairly evenly. This can be done with large cards or with some kind of this white material and lighting that from behind. The camera can be hidden behind a large card, at least 4'x4' and then removing the black spot of the lens in post. It is likely that you may not see the lens reflected as it should be very tiny. Another technique I have used. You need to build a completely black world around the ring. You then light the black which will become white reflective in the ring. The remaining areas of the black that are not lit will become greys and blacks in the ring and should render some very nice reflections. This technique does require more lighting and is more difficult to achieve good results, but the time spent can be very satisfying. Good luck.
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 11:13:17 PM »
all about your angles...  light, science and magic a good book on this

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2013, 11:20:05 AM »
guys, thanks for the replies. i didn't get a chance to say thanks for the further replies

@infilm: great advice. thanks
not trying to get white. just want bling - but not make look artificial. the problem is that what i see with the eye is a beautifully lit ring - that when photographed looks darker than it is actually

Photography:Light, Science & Magic - ok... i think i've heard this several times now. the only thing is... i don't fancy putting my head into a book and reading. but if i have to... then i have to!

@victorwol: why have u got a black card on top of the bottle picture setup?

@LewisShermer: flash... erm yes... there was no flash. :)
i'm posting a question on this in the next few min

all other replies: thanks a million. all replies were read and got great advice

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2013, 01:38:45 PM »
guys, thanks for the replies. i didn't get a chance to say thanks for the further replies

@infilm: great advice. thanks
not trying to get white. just want bling - but not make look artificial. the problem is that what i see with the eye is a beautifully lit ring - that when photographed looks darker than it is actually

Photography:Light, Science & Magic - ok... i think i've heard this several times now. the only thing is... i don't fancy putting my head into a book and reading. but if i have to... then i have to!

@victorwol: why have u got a black card on top of the bottle picture setup?

@LewisShermer: flash... erm yes... there was no flash. :)
i'm posting a question on this in the next few min

all other replies: thanks a million. all replies were read and got great advice

This might not be a Gordian knot solution, bit what about shifting your way out of the problem with a TS lens?
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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2013, 02:15:40 PM »
This might not be a Gordian knot solution, bit what about shifting your way out of the problem with a TS lens?
don't understand what ur saying
what do u mean by TS lens?
thanks

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Re: How to shoot jewellery and NOT get reflections of the camera
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2013, 02:15:40 PM »