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50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« on: May 15, 2013, 12:33:38 PM »
I'm about to purchase a prime and am wondering which lens would be the best to get. I'm shooting with a 60d and  currently have a 15-85 ef-s and the 70-200 f4 is. I'm in a class doing portrait photography, indoors  and outdoors. thoughts as to which lens you would is on crop body? thanks
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50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
If you have the space, the 85mm is more flattering than a 50mm. If not, the 50mm is decent for portraits.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 12:39:02 PM »
I'm about to purchase a prime and am wondering which lens would be the best to get. I'm shooting with a 60d and  currently have a 15-85 ef-s and the 70-200 f4 is. I'm in a class doing portrait photography, indoors  and outdoors. thoughts as to which lens you would is on crop body? thanks

Personally, I'd pick the 85/1.8 - but that's my style, not yours. You have the 15-85 - set it to 50mm for a while, then to 85mm for a while...  See which framing you prefer, then get that lens.
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 01:18:40 PM »
I've been doing a lot of senior photo shoots, and also some general portrait work over the last few years and I was thinking that a prime lens might be in order for better DOF and results. My current photos are very nice and I have gotten many complements on the shoots. I'm just thinking that going prime is the next step. A lot of my photos are head or head & torso shots, so I could go either way, just am not sure which is a better lens as the 50 is pretty old, but people say it's still great. When comparing them on the Digital Pic website, the 85 looked to have a better result on the charts.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 01:42:28 PM »
A lot of my photos are head or head & torso shots, so I could go either way, just am not sure which is a better lens as the 50 is pretty old, but people say it's still great. When comparing them on the Digital Pic website, the 85 looked to have a better result on the charts.

The 85/1.8 is better, as long as you keep specular highlights out of the pics (LoCA is bad).
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 03:30:17 PM »
I've been doing a lot of senior photo shoots, and also some general portrait work over the last few years and I was thinking that a prime lens might be in order for better DOF and results. My current photos are very nice and I have gotten many complements on the shoots. I'm just thinking that going prime is the next step. A lot of my photos are head or head & torso shots, so I could go either way, just am not sure which is a better lens as the 50 is pretty old, but people say it's still great. When comparing them on the Digital Pic website, the 85 looked to have a better result on the charts.

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In addition to what neuroanatomist says, for head/torso shots the longer lens lets you stay farther away from your subject which, aside from resulting in rather more flattering photos, makes for a more relaxed and comfortable experience all round.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 03:57:58 PM »
Since you're using a crop sensor, I would recommend getting the 50 1.4, as the FOV is almost equivalent to 85mm. And with 85 1.8, you'll be @ 135mm. Also, you have to take into consideration that the bokeh on crop sensor is not as impressive as FF. So between 1.4 vs 1.8 on a crop sensor, I will go for the extra stop which is 1.4. -- but that's my preference.

Having an FF body, i always prefer the 85 for portraits - both indoor & outdoor. For general use and versatility, I'd pick up  my 50mm.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 04:12:17 PM »
A lot of my photos are head or head & torso shots, so I could go either way, just am not sure which is a better lens as the 50 is pretty old, but people say it's still great. When comparing them on the Digital Pic website, the 85 looked to have a better result on the charts.

The 85/1.8 is better, as long as you keep specular highlights out of the pics (LoCA is bad).

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I'm using 150/2.8 on FF (which gives similar angle and DoF) and it is a great combo.
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 05:12:06 PM »
Since you're using a crop sensor, I would recommend getting the 50 1.4, as the FOV is almost equivalent to 85mm. And with 85 1.8, you'll be @ 135mm. Also, you have to take into consideration that the bokeh on crop sensor is not as impressive as FF. So between 1.4 vs 1.8 on a crop sensor, I will go for the extra stop which is 1.4. -- but that's my preference.

Having an FF body, i always prefer the 85 for portraits - both indoor & outdoor. For general use and versatility, I'd pick up  my 50mm.
I totally agree with this.

85mm seems to be the go to for portrait. On a crop, a 85mm is no longer 85mm. A 50mm on a crop is more in like with what a 85mm would be on a full frame as mentioned.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 05:46:47 PM »
Since you're using a crop sensor, I would recommend getting the 50 1.4, as the FOV is almost equivalent to 85mm. And with 85 1.8, you'll be @ 135mm. Also, you have to take into consideration that the bokeh on crop sensor is not as impressive as FF. So between 1.4 vs 1.8 on a crop sensor, I will go for the extra stop which is 1.4. -- but that's my preference.

Having an FF body, i always prefer the 85 for portraits - both indoor & outdoor. For general use and versatility, I'd pick up  my 50mm.
I totally agree with this.

85mm seems to be the go to for portrait. On a crop, a 85mm is no longer 85mm. A 50mm on a crop is more in like with what a 85mm would be on a full frame as mentioned.

Just depends on how your shooting. The 'classic' (= full frame, i.e. film) portrait focal lengths are 35mm for environmental, 50mm for full body, 85mm for torso, and 135mm for head shots.  In each case, you're framing the subject at about the same distance, a distance which gives a flattering perspective and is also a comfortable working distance (can talk without being loud, but not too close).

The OP mentions doing head/shoulders shots (so, 135mm) and torso (85mm), and on APS-C that's ~85mm and 50mm, respectively.  So really, getting both would be good (I have both the 85L and 135L, which I use for portraits on FF).  I suggest examining your portfolio to see how much 50mm vs. 85mm is used, considering whether shoots are usually outdoors (room to back up if needed) or indoors (50mm may be a safer bet).
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 06:48:40 PM »
The 85mm will compress more than the 50mm which results in more flattering portraits.
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 07:40:49 PM »
You can't go wrong with either. If it matters the 85 has true ring usm and the 50 does not. So the 50 is a little slower to focus but not enough to really matter in my opinion.  Fwiw I like the 85 over the 50.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 07:56:53 PM »
I'm about to purchase a prime and am wondering which lens would be the best to get. I'm shooting with a 60d and  currently have a 15-85 ef-s and the 70-200 f4 is. I'm in a class doing portrait photography, indoors  and outdoors. thoughts as to which lens you would is on crop body? thanks

Also consider the Sigma 85mm f1.4 ..... bit more expensive but way cheaper than the Canon 85 f1.2 and almost as good

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 09:32:54 PM »
On a crop camera like the 60D, I would grab a 50mm over an 85mm, for its flexibility. But both are great.

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Re: 50 f1.4 vs 85 f1.8.....
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 10:00:25 PM »
I can't afford the Sigma 85 f1.4, it's a little out of my range. I'm sitting in the $500.00 dollar range for a lens. So, I need to stay within my means, as I only spend the money I make from photo shoots on camera stuff, keeps me in line. The Sigma 30 F1.4 is out of the question, as I do plan to upgrade to FF by the end of the year and I don't want to invest in APS-C lenses. I already have the 15-85 which I'll sell with the 60D when the time comes.

So, it seems that both lenses are good choices but maybe the 50 is a little better from what I'm reading. I guess I can mount the 70-200 F4L IS is I need the 85mm range.

Thanks for all the feedback! Unless I see any other reason to not get the 50 or if you think their is something that might work better than either of the 2 lenses I mentioned, I'll order the 50mm 1.4  next week.

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