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When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »

A question I am asked daily

We were told ages ago that any replacement of the EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS would happen after the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x had begun shipping. That time is nearly upon us.


The new 100-400 does indeed exist and is being actively tested, however Canon is in no rush to announce the lens. We’re told that the current 100-400 still sells at an amazing clip and outpaces the 70-300L by a 4 to 1 margin.


Canon may also be waiting to see how the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x sells, would people really hold off buying it if a new 100-400 was available?


With Nikon announcing their new 80-400, 2013 will probably be the year we finally see the new 100-400 from Canon. Here’s a patent for the new 100-400 optical formula, notice that the new design starts at f/4 instead of f/4.5.


Canon EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS


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When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 09:21:12 AM »
if you have sources to tell you that there are prototypes.

why don´t they tell you at least if it is a push-pull design or not?

or is a push-pull design tested and a "normal" design?

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 09:23:21 AM »
I am curious about the IQ and if it is push-pull design or not. If IQ is on par with the IQ of the 70-300L and if the design is not push-pull, I may replace my 70-300L for extra reach.


EDIT: Currently I am considering to add the 400mm f/5.6
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 09:29:51 AM »
7 years ago I didn't buy the 100-400L because it was old, had poor IS and badly needed an update.  I now own one at work, and my original opinion has been reinforced by my ownership of this lens.  It feels like Canon is moving through quicksand lately.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 09:37:37 AM »
I suppose another answer to the question could be....."When Sigma or Tamron release one".   At which time that 'amazing clip' of sales could slow.  ;)
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 10:11:35 AM »
if you have sources to tell you that there are prototypes.

why don´t they tell you at least if it is a push-pull design or not?

or is a push-pull design tested and a "normal" design?
I thought it was certain that it was NOT a push-pull? All rumors I heard point to twist-zoom, but I could ofc be mistaken.

I am however NOT considering this if it IS push-pull. From Canon's pov, they could also keep selling the old one, if the new one has twist-zoom. Some people prefer push-pull. Some don't.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 10:15:22 AM »
if you have sources to tell you that there are prototypes.

why don´t they tell you at least if it is a push-pull design or not?

or is a push-pull design tested and a "normal" design?
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 10:15:22 AM »

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 10:21:34 AM »
Sounds promising good to improve on a good lens with improve optics, USM and IS.   Hope it is twist zoom and that Canon's not copying Nikon's price of their 80-400 AFS VR.   If they price is at same as the Sony 70-400 MK II then this will be ideal.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 10:40:54 AM »
If the 100-400 II is a twist-to-zoom design, I'll buy one (and pretend that it is the new 200-400). If not, I'll wait for the 400/5.6L IS. In the meantime, I'll make do on the long end with my 70-200 IS + 1.4x II and crop in post.
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 11:16:44 AM »
I originally did not like the idea of a push-pull design, but have changed my mind after using my 400L for a few years.
Some of the advantages that this design made available when it was designed are:
 
     Short Storage length, shorter than the 70-200mmL
     Close focusing, for filling a frame with small birds which often let you get close.
     Is has worked for me down to 1/20 sec, far better than the IS on my 400mm f/5.6.
 
 
Newer lens technology now allows for shorter lens designs, better IS,  all with close focusing.  I'd certainly welcome a new model that  had those attributes, push pull or not.  I'd prefer the smallest one, whichever it is.
 
My 400mm f/5.6 is too long to easily store, and won't focus closely, plus a lack of IS can be a issue for stills where light in not its best.  Having to use a high shutter speed requires high ISO's unless I have bright light.
 

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 11:22:39 AM »
According to the poll, It's the second most desired lens on CR. Which mean's there is alot of money to be made in this lens.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 11:34:10 AM »
March 2021.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 12:19:54 PM »
I originally did not like the idea of a push-pull design, but have changed my mind after using my 400L for a few years.
Some of the advantages that this design made available when it was designed are:
 
     Short Storage length, shorter than the 70-200mmL
     Close focusing, for filling a frame with small birds which often let you get close.
     Is has worked for me down to 1/20 sec, far better than the IS on my 400mm f/5.6.
 
 
Newer lens technology now allows for shorter lens designs, better IS,  all with close focusing.  I'd certainly welcome a new model that  had those attributes, push pull or not.  I'd prefer the smallest one, whichever it is.
 
My 400mm f/5.6 is too long to easily store, and won't focus closely, plus a lack of IS can be a issue for stills where light in not its best.  Having to use a high shutter speed requires high ISO's unless I have bright light.
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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 01:01:25 PM »
I don't mind a push-pull design in general, but the implementation on the 100-400L is just flat horrible.  You can't lock the zoom without moving the focus ring.  It's also hard to hold the lens so that you're hand isn't on either the focus ring or the lock ring (which, when unlocked, moves the focus ring with it) which creates accidental focus movements when you are zooming.  The focus ring should be on the outside and the grip on the inside - just like the 70-200s are.  Also, you can't have your thumb on the switches when your hand is on the zoom slider.

It's just a sub-optimal design.

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Re: When is the New 100-400 Coming?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 01:01:25 PM »