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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2013, 05:33:31 PM »
Anyone using/used this lens for sports?  I keep hearing that the AF is slightly slower, but nothing to really quantify that.  I currently have the canon mk 1 and am looking to upgrade.  But since I shoot almost exclusively sports, AF speed is/can be an issue for me.

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« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2013, 12:43:28 PM »
AF speed is nearly identical.  The MkII will intially go faster, but will hunt toward the end.  The Tamron will go a touch slower, but does not hunt.  Mind you, this happens in lower light condition.  In bright sunlight, I went back and forth between focusing on a far away object, and then one that's only a few feet away.  The difference is so slight, that I doubt I could tell the difference if I didn't already know what I'm holding in my hand.

For me, the limitation on tracking subject will be the 6D's own AF system.  Not bad in bright light, but will be subject in lower light (unless you use center point all the time).



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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2013, 07:08:15 PM »
Day #2 with both lenses, and I still can't make up my mind.  I still have to look at the EXIF data to figure out which is shot by what lens :).  That's a good problem I guess right?

If it ends up being this close, I think I'll keep the Tamron.  The extra money can go toward a fast prime maybe :).

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2013, 09:20:20 PM »
Hey all,

    How about a little jellyfish? Not bad considering it was through a couple of inches of glass!

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Very nice Gary. I like it. Well done.  :)

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« Reply #49 on: August 24, 2013, 11:02:14 PM »
Hey all,

     Thanks, Click! That was from a trip to Monterey, CA. There are more images on my Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/gary.watson.98229/media_set?set=a.680475548636020.1073741833.10000020742625
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, from that trip. Every picture in that album was shot with a Canon 7D and this lens. There was a jelly exhibit while we were there, along with the sea horses!

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #50 on: August 24, 2013, 11:09:56 PM »
Anyone using/used this lens for sports?  I keep hearing that the AF is slightly slower, but nothing to really quantify that.  I currently have the canon mk 1 and am looking to upgrade.  But since I shoot almost exclusively sports, AF speed is/can be an issue for me.

Thanks!

Hey all,

    The only sport I have shot with it, so far, is baseball. With the AF capabilities of the 7D, I had NO PROBLEMS keeping up with any of the action!

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2013, 07:35:43 PM »
This is SOOC.  The Flickr has actual size for pixel peepers who want to count eyelashes :)


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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2013, 09:35:28 PM »
AF speed is nearly identical.  The MkII will intially go faster, but will hunt toward the end.  The Tamron will go a touch slower, but does not hunt.  Mind you, this happens in lower light condition.  In bright sunlight, I went back and forth between focusing on a far away object, and then one that's only a few feet away.  The difference is so slight, that I doubt I could tell the difference if I didn't already know what I'm holding in my hand.

For me, the limitation on tracking subject will be the 6D's own AF system.  Not bad in bright light, but will be subject in lower light (unless you use center point all the time).

Interesting comparison!  My theory about the 6D's AF failing too often, is because when you leave all points active, for some reason the system almost never hands off to the center point.  It keeps trying to focus with the others even when the subject is clearly under the center point.  It has no problem handing off amongst the other outer points...but if it could only give equal weight to the center when all are active (rather than neglect it), I feel it wouldn't lose lock so easily.  If Canon would ever change this via firmware or something, that would be good.

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2013, 09:05:22 AM »
Saw this as I was waiting for my MacBook Pro's battery change at the Apple store :)


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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2013, 09:18:51 AM »
Saw this as I was waiting for my MacBook Pro's battery change at the Apple store :)


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Cute shot.  I do think the Tamron handles the transition from focus to defocus more smoothly than the Canon.
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« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2013, 12:18:02 PM »
...I do think the Tamron handles the transition from focus to defocus more smoothly than the Canon.

+1
I was never pleased with the (latest) Canon's rendition of transition areas; went from busy to garish to, "what's that other stuff in there?"
I'm thinking of getting this Tamron in F mount to replace or complement my Nikon 70-200/4vr.  Also a very sharp lens but suffers from similar transitional area bokeh ugliness.  (but it's so small and light..)

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2013, 12:24:52 PM »
...I do think the Tamron handles the transition from focus to defocus more smoothly than the Canon.

+1
I was never pleased with the (latest) Canon's rendition of transition areas; went from busy to garish to, "what's that other stuff in there?"
I'm thinking of getting this Tamron in F mount to replace or complement my Nikon 70-200/4vr.  Also a very sharp lens but suffers from similar transitional area bokeh ugliness.  (but it's so small and light..)

Wow, I never thought I will hear this about 70-200 mk II (I hope you guys are referring to that lens) which some here (and elsewhere) consider to be the best canon zoom lens made till date (it surely may be so)! Now day by day my itch of buying the Tamron 70-200 grows exponentially. (now the rose petals will suffer) I should buy it now, I should wait till next year, I should buy it now, I should wait.........
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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2013, 01:02:03 PM »
...I do think the Tamron handles the transition from focus to defocus more smoothly than the Canon.

+1
I was never pleased with the (latest) Canon's rendition of transition areas; went from busy to garish to, "what's that other stuff in there?"
I'm thinking of getting this Tamron in F mount to replace or complement my Nikon 70-200/4vr.  Also a very sharp lens but suffers from similar transitional area bokeh ugliness.  (but it's so small and light..)

Wow, I never thought I will hear this about 70-200 mk II (I hope you guys are referring to that lens) which some here (and elsewhere) consider to be the best canon zoom lens made till date (it surely may be so)! Now day by day my itch of buying the Tamron 70-200 grows exponentially. (now the rose petals will suffer) I should buy it now, I should wait till next year, I should buy it now, I should wait.........

That's the one.
Canon's lens (& Nikon's) may be incredibly sharp and very well corrected for the focus plane, but the out-of-plane areas can look like garbage in some conditions.

see my e.g. here, look at the R side of the apple on the R side and tell me that's a nice bokeh rendition of the branches behind it.  ;)

www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=819.210

I've had many shots with busy backgrounds made more ugly by this lens so I got rid of it.
I posted a similarly ugly shot from the Nikon 70-200/4vr somewhere too.

A good lens is not always about ultimate sharpness, those other areas matter too. (Also, Canon's 70-200/2.8L IS 2 has a fair bit of CA in FF corners)
I really like what I saw when just quickly testing the Tamron.  I can see the Canon and Nikon lens trouble areas just thru the viewfinder while racking focus over busy backgrounds.  Do that w the Tam and you won't see nearly as much of that radial bokeh effect.
I'll trade ultimate sharpness for a better-balanced performance on pretty much any lens.  As such, I sold my Canon 2.8 L 2, have been still using my Nikon kit for now and will likely add this Tamron in the future.

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Re: Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 Di VC USD
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2013, 02:36:40 PM »
...I do think the Tamron handles the transition from focus to defocus more smoothly than the Canon.

+1
I was never pleased with the (latest) Canon's rendition of transition areas; went from busy to garish to, "what's that other stuff in there?"
I'm thinking of getting this Tamron in F mount to replace or complement my Nikon 70-200/4vr.  Also a very sharp lens but suffers from similar transitional area bokeh ugliness.  (but it's so small and light..)

Exactly.  Many reviews focus only on the "bokeh balls", which is only part of the story.  To me the transition zone is more important to the final image.  That is part of the reason that I was really impressed with the Canon 70-300L for being a variable aperture zoom - it works really well in the transition zone and so images from it are (to my eye) very pleasing.
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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2013, 05:16:06 PM »
Something a little different :)


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