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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »
Hmm. Announcing a product in July would be a first for Canon, no?

But if the 70D is indeed announced in July, then it's quite unlikely
that the 7DII will be announced in August/September.

So, it looks like the 7DII will be a 2014 camera, after all.

Well, let's hope that the 70D specs will be exciting.
Fingers crossed for a new sensor (and for removing the articulating LCD  :-*).

The articulating screen is one of my favorite features.  Just the other day I had to hold the camera above the heads of a crowd just to get a shot... and I was able to see in live view  and still frame up my shot because I angled the screen down. 
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 08:48:25 PM »
Love the "For advanced soccer moms" comment.  ;)

The X0D cameras are low-end prosumer cameras and ones hopes really should expect all that much. But I've seen amazing video work from a properly rigged 60D. The kind of work that most of these Internet-Forum-Photographers can't touch.

I would love the X0D cameras go back to the magnesium body. It's why I chose my 50D over the Rebel and better spec'd 60D. I think the 70D will get an extra stop of ISO performance and hopefully WiFi and/or GPS. If it gets all of these features in this paragraph, it would be one damn-fine camera.

There are reasons to get a 5D III over a 70D. That's why there is a price difference too.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 08:56:09 PM »
well if it really has the same old 18 MP sensor i would stick with a 60D a bit longer.

let´s hope it is not such a pisspoor update as we have seen in the rebel line.

I'm upgrading to a 5d mkiii, so the 70D isn't even on my radar screen.  But what I would like to see from the 70D is improved image quality from the sensor, but I'm ok with 18mp... or 19mp just to distinguish it from its predecessor. 

I'd really like to see a bluetooth feature so I can transfer a photo to my phone so I can post or email that way.  Seems like a simple enough function to add. 

I'd like them to add back in AFMA, better low light performance, a few more AF points along the next level of AF points (outside the present 9). 

I could care less about the gps or the wifi... so honestly... I think I was the 60D and the 50D to mate and get just a little better.  So I guess I really don't care.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 09:12:37 PM »
I bought my 60D two years ago along with the 18-135mm.  I sold the 18-135mm for $300 and my final price was around $700. 

I'm selling it used for at least $500... maybe as much as $550.  $200 in depreciation for two years isn't bad. 
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 09:56:25 PM »
I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

  • Metal body (or mostly metal)
  • Improved weather sealing
  • AFMA
  • Slightly improved AF system
  • 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
  • A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood.  :) I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

LOL...you may be right! If it's still cat vomit, I'll just keep going with my G12 (which I love) until an 80D comes along or I can afford a full-frame body. By the way, if I had a cat, I'd probably feed it M&Ms, too. :)

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The articulating screen is one of my favorite features.  Just the other day I had to hold the camera above the heads of a crowd just to get a shot... and I was able to see in live view  and still frame up my shot because I angled the screen down.


Reminds me of the photographer at my cousin's wedding. For the big group-shot of all the family and extended family, she kept lifting her camera over her head, taking her best guess at aim, then bringing it down to see if it was okay. She did this 8-10 times until she was satisfied.

My brother, on the other hand, flipped the swivel screen out on his T3i and took two (great) pictures. :)

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2013, 10:00:44 PM »
yeah i actually like the articulating screen on the t3i Its something i feel the EOS-M really could have done with
those overhead shots are alot easier as you point out
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2013, 10:25:11 PM »
Some people in this thread are already coming to solid conclusions about the 70D, making remarks about it's use for soccer moms, etc. I understand making guesses based on Canon's track record for releases, but still. How are you so sure the 70D will be so much like the 60D? Wasn't the 60D a radical change from it's predecessor? My nephew plays soccer but I've actually never seen a soccer mom with a 60D, 9/10 it's a rebel and then I did see one with a Nikon D3000. The use of the term soccer mom is kinda overblown in this forum. I mean, what if we saw a soccer mom with a 1DX? I guess that makes the 1DX a soccer mom camera too. I personally would rather make fun of the old tourist folk and their odd setups like this one guy I met who had a 70-300 on his film body...for a vacation camera. Whatever makes people happy I guess. O.o
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2013, 10:25:11 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2013, 11:01:11 PM »
Some people in this thread are already coming to solid conclusions about the 70D, making remarks about it's use for soccer moms, etc. I understand making guesses based on Canon's track record for releases, but still. How are you so sure the 70D will be so much like the 60D? Wasn't the 60D a radical change from it's predecessor? My nephew plays soccer but I've actually never seen a soccer mom with a 60D, 9/10 it's a rebel and then I did see one with a Nikon D3000. The use of the term soccer mom is kinda overblown in this forum. I mean, what if we saw a soccer mom with a 1DX? I guess that makes the 1DX a soccer mom camera too. I personally would rather make fun of the old tourist folk and their odd setups like this one guy I met who had a 70-300 on his film body...for a vacation camera. Whatever makes people happy I guess. O.o

I was at the American Girl store and a pretty nice looking mom had a 5D mkii/iii (I couldn't tell and I was busier looking at her other features), and I believe a 24-70.  I'm going to guess it was a $5000 set up to take a picture of her kid with next to a silly cardboard cutout... but who knows, maybe she was using her pro gear on a personal errand... but I think she was a rich woman who had more money than talent... though she did have some nice talents...
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2013, 11:49:45 PM »
I'm both excited and disappointed. I've waited a long time for 70D announcement, so that's exciting. However, if mass-production issues for the new sensor are what's holding up the 7DII, then it's likely that the 70D will have the same sensor as the SL1 and T5i, so that's kind of disappointing.

Maybe I'll just be really optimistic and hope that not only does the 70D have the new sensor tech, but that the 7DII will therefore also be announced some time this year. Of course, frustration arises out of unmet expectations. I should probably keep my expectations low...

My bet would be that, had new sensor production gone as planned, the 70D would have the new tech (and have been released quite a while ago), but that since it didn't, and they have to release something, they'll do the best they can with all non-sensor improvements and send it out to market.

I'm expecting:

  • Metal body (or mostly metal)
  • Improved weather sealing
  • AFMA
  • Slightly improved AF system
  • 12,800 ISO (expandable to 25,600)
  • A few more creative filters

They might also throw in WiFi and/or GPS, depending on how much they feel they need to compensate for the incremental sensor upgrade.

We'll see...

PS: I really like the swivel screen. First used it on my ever-faithful A80 and currently enjoy it on my G12. Both screens function and articulate as the day they were new (despite some hard use). Knock on wood.  :) I can't imagine not having it, especially since many of the photos I take are from low(er) positions...

I'm expecting

1) a nob that goes ALL the way round
2) a 7 instead of the 6 in the 60d badge
3) 12800 iso will look like a cat vomit after eating a pack of m&ms

Sorry, guess it  because 1) its late & I'm tired & 2) I'm totally past ANY interest in guessing about the 70D.  Because if I had been drinking milk when I read wickidwombat's comments, the milk would have squirted out my nose.  Pretty far too.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2013, 12:51:31 AM »
If this is accurate, I don't know why there would be a need for  much "final testing" if the 70D is to have the same sensor as the 60D.

I'm also not sure why everyone assumes that the 70D and 7D II will share the same sensor if the 70D gets a sensor upgrade. Canon has three sensors in three full-frame bodies. It's very possible we could see a new 22-24 mp sensor in the 70D and then an 19-22 mp sensor in the 7D II.

The rumor didn't say the same sensor, just Olog-hai there preemptively complaining.

Yes, we can get complete expert reviews based on a rumor with no details.
 
It's sad that Canon is so predictable.  The reviews are probably right-on.

I see that you've come around to my way of thinking about Canon :-)

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2013, 01:00:51 AM »

I was at the American Girl store and a pretty nice looking mom had a 5D mkii/iii (I couldn't tell and I was busier looking at her other features), and I believe a 24-70.  I'm going to guess it was a $5000 set up to take a picture of her kid with next to a silly cardboard cutout... but who knows, maybe she was using her pro gear on a personal errand... but I think she was a rich woman who had more money than talent... though she did have some nice talents...

My wife goes to soccer matches, and to the watch crit racing with a 5DIII and 70-200 f/2.8IS II and 24-70 F/2.8 II.  It just so happens that she also runs a studio ....

Who says all soccer mums don't know one end of a camera from the other!
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2013, 01:36:27 AM »
  I was at the American Girl store and a pretty nice looking mom had a 5D mkii/iii (I couldn't tell and I was busier looking at her other features), and I believe a 24-70.  I'm going to guess it was a $5000 set up to take a picture of her kid with next to a silly cardboard cutout... but who knows, maybe she was using her pro gear on a personal errand... but I think she was a rich woman who had more money than talent... though she did have some nice talents...

I can only image how you feel seeing somebody with a Porsche going to the grocery store...

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 01:49:49 AM »

I am sure the 70D will be a great enthusiast camera, hopefully they will include AFMA with it, and a robust AF system - these are 2 things I think that level of camera deserve.

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Everyone was crying foul when the 5D3 came out, but now we've come to see it as more than the sum of its parts.
Canon's trend lately has been to let the sensors settle and bring features down in price.
If they throw in a bunch of features that never used to come with cameras in that price range I'm sure it'll be worth every penny.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2013, 01:49:49 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2013, 02:04:48 AM »
I just want to finally know what the 70D will be so that I know if I can get the 60D now or should wait for 70D as backup/alternate to my 7D.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: May 22, 2013, 02:08:51 AM »
Will be interesting to see! :)
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Coming in July? [CR2]
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