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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 07:59:09 AM »
Someone recommended a BlackRapid shoulder strap to replace the OEM strap from Canon to make carrying the DSLR and lens combo around on a trip. It is easily the best suggestion I've gotten from forums. Now I can let it rest near my waist and off one shoulder and across my chest for a substantial reduction in neck strain and improvement in comfort. Is it the perfect solution? No but it sure helps when u need to carry one dslr with a heavy-ish lens and u can live w/ just one lens for practical purposes.

As for the OM-D EM-5 it seems to be more than adequate and has lots of legacy lenses to go with it. I personally am holding off on switching brands because I doubt one can get real value out of the sale of used lenses in which case I prefer to wait for a quality adapter. The prices I've seen for refurbed are already much lower than original retail. It just doesn't pay for me to buy and sell because ultimately it's a losing proposition. Take care in your purchases and use your equipment wisely.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »


Though I was (and still am) a part of my Yearbook staff, I do not intend to do much portrait or sports photography in the future. I do not have a particular liking for telephoto lenses, nor do I relish in the beauty of bokeh (fine, I do so occasionally)...
So in general, I just want a camera that I can use daily to express myself or to document my own life, which pretty much means that I'll probably be okay with any camera.
(But I mean, good gear can't hurt, right...?) c:

So long as those are your preferences, wouldn't a Sony RX100 make more sense?  It has remarkably good image quality for a point-and-shoot and really will fit in a pocket; it's very small, even compared to the EM5.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 11:39:45 PM »
I think something I'm looking for is definitely not point and shoot (think: something with a viewfinder).

Thanks for all the advice so far, but I'm really considering the EM5 just because of the smaller profile.
If I intend to shoot with a 6D, its profile is much larger and would probably attract more attention. I believe the less attention that I attract, the more focused I will be when composing..
The 6D also lacks weather sealing ("splashproof", fine.)...

Oh, and one last consideration... I am a student so I don't have few thousand dollars to pull out my arse.
Thus, another plus for the lower priced, Olympus camera.
Sigh.

Maybe I should just give up and start using film (I do have an AE-1 and an AT-1 in my closet)...

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2013, 02:08:53 AM »
I think something I'm looking for is definitely not point and shoot (think: something with a viewfinder).

Thanks for all the advice so far, but I'm really considering the EM5 just because of the smaller profile.
If I intend to shoot with a 6D, its profile is much larger and would probably attract more attention. I believe the less attention that I attract, the more focused I will be when composing..
The 6D also lacks weather sealing ("splashproof", fine.)...

Oh, and one last consideration... I am a student so I don't have few thousand dollars to pull out my arse.
Thus, another plus for the lower priced, Olympus camera.
Sigh.

Maybe I should just give up and start using film (I do have an AE-1 and an AT-1 in my closet)...

Why are people all of a sudden scared of being noticed with a camera? Be confident with your equipment. Point it like you mean it. Otherwise whats the point?

In Japan just about every Jim Bob and his uncle has a camera and they take pictures of just about anything.

I get a lot of curious people enquiring about my 7D and what lens I use. Perfect time to chat to them and maybe get a picture of them too!

If you want discreet an iPhone is just as good as any p&s. it's better in fact cos its more useful!!
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2013, 04:00:57 AM »
Forget all the comparisons (in terms of focal length and aperture "equivalence") between full-frame and micro-4/3, as it doesn't really mean anything. Canon is tops for nature and sports photography, due to their lenses. In every other aspect, their offerings are archaic, senselessly crippled and/or uselessly bloated. Go for the E-M5 ... I see they're on special now kitted with the 17mm f/1.8 lens.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2013, 04:08:47 AM »
I think something I'm looking for is definitely not point and shoot (think: something with a viewfinder).

Thanks for all the advice so far, but I'm really considering the EM5 just because of the smaller profile.
If I intend to shoot with a 6D, its profile is much larger and would probably attract more attention. I believe the less attention that I attract, the more focused I will be when composing..
The 6D also lacks weather sealing ("splashproof", fine.)...

Oh, and one last consideration... I am a student so I don't have few thousand dollars to pull out my arse.
Thus, another plus for the lower priced, Olympus camera.
Sigh.

Maybe I should just give up and start using film (I do have an AE-1 and an AT-1 in my closet)...

Why are people all of a sudden scared of being noticed with a camera? Be confident with your equipment. Point it like you mean it. Otherwise whats the point?

In Japan just about every Jim Bob and his uncle has a camera and they take pictures of just about anything.

I get a lot of curious people enquiring about my 7D and what lens I use. Perfect time to chat to them and maybe get a picture of them too!

If you want discreet an iPhone is just as good as any p&s. it's better in fact cos its more useful!!

yeah well you should visit great britain or the usa.   ::)

then you will notice you are one the same level as a suspected peadophile or terrorist.

did you really not noticed how problematic it is in some countrys to take pictures in public?
i mean... the internet is full of reports and videos about this.

and no.. after a dozend such discussions you don´t have time nor lust to discuss you rights with the police or security guys.
 
while the gov. is monitoring every street corner... photographer (especially with a DSLR) are forbidden to take pictures.

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/001022.html

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535627/police-reasonably-suspected-photographer-was-terrorist

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535630/photographer-in-police-picture-ban-sparks-met-probe-update-3-15pm

http://www.yugatech.com/photography/that-no-photography-allowed-policy/

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2018.0

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2360.msg50352#msg50352
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2013, 07:42:45 AM »
I think something I'm looking for is definitely not point and shoot (think: something with a viewfinder).

Thanks for all the advice so far, but I'm really considering the EM5 just because of the smaller profile.
If I intend to shoot with a 6D, its profile is much larger and would probably attract more attention. I believe the less attention that I attract, the more focused I will be when composing..
The 6D also lacks weather sealing ("splashproof", fine.)...

Oh, and one last consideration... I am a student so I don't have few thousand dollars to pull out my arse.
Thus, another plus for the lower priced, Olympus camera.
Sigh.

Maybe I should just give up and start using film (I do have an AE-1 and an AT-1 in my closet)...

Why are people all of a sudden scared of being noticed with a camera? Be confident with your equipment. Point it like you mean it. Otherwise whats the point?

In Japan just about every Jim Bob and his uncle has a camera and they take pictures of just about anything.

I get a lot of curious people enquiring about my 7D and what lens I use. Perfect time to chat to them and maybe get a picture of them too!

If you want discreet an iPhone is just as good as any p&s. it's better in fact cos its more useful!!

yeah well you should visit great britain or the usa.   ::)

then you will notice you are one the same level as a suspected peadophile or terrorist.

did you really not noticed how problematic it is in some countrys to take pictures in public?
i mean... the internet is full of reports and videos about this.

and no.. after a dozend such discussions you don´t have time nor lust to discuss you rights with the police or security guys.
 
while the gov. is monitoring every street corner... photographer (especially with a DSLR) are forbidden to take pictures.

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/001022.html

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535627/police-reasonably-suspected-photographer-was-terrorist

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535630/photographer-in-police-picture-ban-sparks-met-probe-update-3-15pm

http://www.yugatech.com/photography/that-no-photography-allowed-policy/

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2018.0

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2360.msg50352#msg50352

Been to Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, the Philippines and Australia. I'm from the UK and that was the only place I ever had police question me. Yes it annoys me but hey I didn't do anything wrong or break any laws. Why should I sweat it. (By the way I am of Pakistani descent and yeah I do get the "terrorist" stare). However what half wit terrorist goes around with a 5D mark II and a 70-200 lens? Yeah if I was a terrorist do u think I would be using that? Twats! (Referring to police).

My point is, if you look like you are on a job (tripod, bag, vest etc) they'll just leave you be. You could also get permission from local authorities before you shoot, that way you are covered if cops turn up.

I think this "guy with a camera must be up to no good" stigma needs to be corrected.
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2013, 07:42:45 AM »

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2013, 08:36:49 AM »
I think something I'm looking for is definitely not point and shoot (think: something with a viewfinder).

Thanks for all the advice so far, but I'm really considering the EM5 just because of the smaller profile.
If I intend to shoot with a 6D, its profile is much larger and would probably attract more attention. I believe the less attention that I attract, the more focused I will be when composing..
The 6D also lacks weather sealing ("splashproof", fine.)...

Oh, and one last consideration... I am a student so I don't have few thousand dollars to pull out my arse.
Thus, another plus for the lower priced, Olympus camera.
Sigh.

Maybe I should just give up and start using film (I do have an AE-1 and an AT-1 in my closet)...

Why are people all of a sudden scared of being noticed with a camera? Be confident with your equipment. Point it like you mean it. Otherwise whats the point?

In Japan just about every Jim Bob and his uncle has a camera and they take pictures of just about anything.

I get a lot of curious people enquiring about my 7D and what lens I use. Perfect time to chat to them and maybe get a picture of them too!

If you want discreet an iPhone is just as good as any p&s. it's better in fact cos its more useful!!

yeah well you should visit great britain or the usa.   ::)

then you will notice you are one the same level as a suspected peadophile or terrorist.

did you really not noticed how problematic it is in some countrys to take pictures in public?
i mean... the internet is full of reports and videos about this.

and no.. after a dozend such discussions you don´t have time nor lust to discuss you rights with the police or security guys.
 
while the gov. is monitoring every street corner... photographer (especially with a DSLR) are forbidden to take pictures.

http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/001022.html

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535627/police-reasonably-suspected-photographer-was-terrorist

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/535630/photographer-in-police-picture-ban-sparks-met-probe-update-3-15pm

http://www.yugatech.com/photography/that-no-photography-allowed-policy/

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2018.0

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=2360.msg50352#msg50352

Been to Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, the Philippines and Australia. I'm from the UK and that was the only place I ever had police question me. Yes it annoys me but hey I didn't do anything wrong or break any laws. Why should I sweat it. (By the way I am of Pakistani descent and yeah I do get the "terrorist" stare). However what half wit terrorist goes around with a 5D mark II and a 70-200 lens? Yeah if I was a terrorist do u think I would be using that? Twats! (Referring to police).

My point is, if you look like you are on a job (tripod, bag, vest etc) they'll just leave you be. You could also get permission from local authorities before you shoot, that way you are covered if cops turn up.

I think this "guy with a camera must be up to no good" stigma needs to be corrected.

Exactly. Hiding a small stealthy camera seems even more suspicious :).
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2013, 10:50:54 PM »
Forget all the comparisons (in terms of focal length and aperture "equivalence") between full-frame and micro-4/3, as it doesn't really mean anything. Canon is tops for nature and sports photography, due to their lenses. In every other aspect, their offerings are archaic, senselessly crippled and/or uselessly bloated. Go for the E-M5 ... I see they're on special now kitted with the 17mm f/1.8 lens.

Where did you see this kit? I would rather get this than the zoom lens kits...


And yes, I should get more confident about my photography and take more pictures in general. I'm not so much concerned with people staring at you compared to a person stealing my camera because of a white lens...
Oh well.
I shall think about this issue further. I still have a couple of months before I actually need to decide, so I'll see then.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2013, 03:50:26 PM »
I'm going to college next year, so I'm looking for a new camera to replace the one I have now.
I currently have a T1i with a 18-55 kit lens and a 70-200 f/4.
I'm thinking of getting an EM5 instead of my previous choice, a 6D, because of the portability factor.
I will probably give my camera to my older brother after I get my new camera, but I'm sure I'll stay quite loyal to the Canon brand (meaning that I will probably still get back to photography with these larger cameras in the future).

My current plan is to sell my 70-200 and get a EM5, but I would like to hear some thoughts before I do this, considering the differences between micro 4/3 and full frame...

Hi , if you do care about IQ , then ignore the m43 , it is a crappy system.
the 6D is a great camera but it is heavy as a system and maybe a bit too pricey for a student.
so you may want to consider the Fuji X-E1 or Sony NEX6 seriously.
or even the Fuji X100s is a much better camera than the OM-D that has extremely small old sensor.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 08:02:11 PM »

Hi , if you do care about IQ , then ignore the m43 , it is a crappy system.
the 6D is a great camera but it is heavy as a system and maybe a bit too pricey for a student.
so you may want to consider the Fuji X-E1 or Sony NEX6 seriously.
or even the Fuji X100s is a much better camera than the OM-D that has extremely small old sensor.

Yeah, terrible tiny sensor, crappy lenses - can't do a thing with it:

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/09/21/olympus-60-2-8-macro/

http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2012/09/olympus-mzuiko-60mm-f28-macro-review.html

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/08/31/watch-photography-with-the-olympus-om-d-and-thoughts-on-its-use-as-a-backup-system/

http://blog.mingthein.com/2012/07/22/review-the-olympus-zd-751-8-for-micro-four-thirds/

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/10/19/the-olympus-75-1-8-lens-quick-review-on-the-om-d-e-m5/

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/11/29/review-olympus-75mm-f1-8-lens/

etc., etc., etc.


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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 10:08:07 PM »
I'm going to college next year, so I'm looking for a new camera to replace the one I have now.
I currently have a T1i with a 18-55 kit lens and a 70-200 f/4.
I'm thinking of getting an EM5 instead of my previous choice, a 6D, because of the portability factor.
I will probably give my camera to my older brother after I get my new camera, but I'm sure I'll stay quite loyal to the Canon brand (meaning that I will probably still get back to photography with these larger cameras in the future).

My current plan is to sell my 70-200 and get a EM5, but I would like to hear some thoughts before I do this, considering the differences between micro 4/3 and full frame...

I have a 5DII and a panasonic GF2. Both are great systems. The m43 cameras offer the most complete lens system of the mirrorless choices, and when you look at the weight you need to get comparable fields of view, m43 has a huge advantage. The Canon is my preferred system when I want shallow dof, or a "fast" camera (DSLR responsiveness -- even the 'unusable' 5D AF is extremely snappy). For portraits, the lenses I have on the 5DII are pretty hard to beat -- 135L, Sigma 85, 35L.

But the Olympus 45mm and the 20mm pancake are much lighter. The whole m43 system -- GF2, Pany 20mm and Oly 45mm fit in my wife's handbag. Not only would you get a similar size system with the OM-D, the image quality has really come a long way now that they've started putting Sony sensors in those cameras. They didn't have a GF-2 sized camera with a built in viewfinder back when I was shopping, this is another huge plus for the OM-D -- it really was a camera that answered the prayers of their target market (though Fuji upstaged them a bit with the X100)
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2013, 07:59:21 PM »
If you want lightweight get the Olympus.  If you need higher IQ, get the 6D.  The 6D has higher IQ than the Olympus camera and everyone knows it.  The review I read which was also posted on here compared the IQ to that of the 60D.  However, the 6D and lens is a lot bulkier/heavier, so that might matter.
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2013, 08:59:49 PM »
If you want lightweight get the Olympus.  If you need higher IQ, get the 6D.  The 6D has higher IQ than the Olympus camera and everyone knows it.  The review I read which was also posted on here compared the IQ to that of the 60D.  However, the 6D and lens is a lot bulkier/heavier, so that might matter.
Having had a 60D and an EM5 side by side for comparison, I would say that the OM5 has slightly better iq than the 60D. I preferred the user interface on the 60D, but I think that most of it was due to familiarity. I think the kit lenses for micro 4/3 are better than for Canon, and the system is certainly a lot lighter and less expensive.

However, slap some decent L-glass on the 60D and you get sharper pictures and it focuses faster and more accurately.

This is apples and oranges comparison.... 4 year old design vs 1 year old, kit lenses vs Lglass... hardly fair or accurate... but what can be said is that both are good. My opinion is that if you are going to put expensive lenses on the body, go with Canon..... if you are going to go with kit lenses, go Oly.
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