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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2013, 10:27:31 PM »
If you want lightweight get the Olympus.  If you need higher IQ, get the 6D.  The 6D has higher IQ than the Olympus camera and everyone knows it.  The review I read which was also posted on here compared the IQ to that of the 60D.  However, the 6D and lens is a lot bulkier/heavier, so that might matter.
Having had a 60D and an EM5 side by side for comparison, I would say that the OM5 has slightly better iq than the 60D. I preferred the user interface on the 60D, but I think that most of it was due to familiarity. I think the kit lenses for micro 4/3 are better than for Canon, and the system is certainly a lot lighter and less expensive.

However, slap some decent L-glass on the 60D and you get sharper pictures and it focuses faster and more accurately.

This is apples and oranges comparison.... 4 year old design vs 1 year old, kit lenses vs Lglass... hardly fair or accurate... but what can be said is that both are good. My opinion is that if you are going to put expensive lenses on the body, go with Canon..... if you are going to go with kit lenses, go Oly.

It is absolutely fair and accurate.  How is not?  The OP is specifically asking, the 6D or the OMD EM5.  That is the apples to apples comparison, right now.
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2013, 10:27:31 PM »

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2013, 10:52:03 PM »
If you want lightweight get the Olympus.  If you need higher IQ, get the 6D.  The 6D has higher IQ than the Olympus camera and everyone knows it.  The review I read which was also posted on here compared the IQ to that of the 60D.  However, the 6D and lens is a lot bulkier/heavier, so that might matter.
Having had a 60D and an EM5 side by side for comparison, I would say that the OM5 has slightly better iq than the 60D. I preferred the user interface on the 60D, but I think that most of it was due to familiarity. I think the kit lenses for micro 4/3 are better than for Canon, and the system is certainly a lot lighter and less expensive.

However, slap some decent L-glass on the 60D and you get sharper pictures and it focuses faster and more accurately.

This is apples and oranges comparison.... 4 year old design vs 1 year old, kit lenses vs Lglass... hardly fair or accurate... but what can be said is that both are good. My opinion is that if you are going to put expensive lenses on the body, go with Canon..... if you are going to go with kit lenses, go Oly.

It is absolutely fair and accurate.  How is not?  The OP is specifically asking, the 6D or the OMD EM5.  That is the apples to apples comparison, right now.

It's MY comparison which wasn't fair and accurate, not yours. When I did my side by side comparison of my 60D to a co-worker's EM5 I had a 17-55 and a 70-200 as lenses and he had a kit zoom..... and the pictures were significantly sharper on the 60D.... you can't do a fair comparison when one has Lglass and the other has a kit lens.... Also, the EM5 is a new design while the 60D is old... not really fair either..... I am very used to the 60D controls and menu, but not with the EM5, also not fair....

That said, I was VERY impressed with the EM5 as a compact crop camera... it would be interesting to try a side by side with the S100. And yes, the 6D beats them both for IQ.

If IQ in the OP's price range is the deciding factor, I would recommend the 6D. If it's portability, I'd look at the EM5 or S100. Also note that the advantages of the 6D for IQ are most apparent in poorer lighting conditions, for daylight and decent light, differences between most cameras is minimal now.
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2013, 11:00:27 PM »
Oh, I misunderstood you.  Your second post I understand everything completely now  :).  I was actually myself looking into getting an EM5 at one time not too long ago.
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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2013, 01:47:09 AM »
If you want lightweight get the Olympus.  If you need higher IQ, get the 6D.  The 6D has higher IQ than the Olympus camera and everyone knows it.  The review I read which was also posted on here compared the IQ to that of the 60D.  However, the 6D and lens is a lot bulkier/heavier, so that might matter.

At low ISO (up to about ISO 800) the difference in IQ is pretty negligible. We have a 5DIII and OM-D, and the OM-D is pretty good as long as you don't try to go too to high. As with the Canon's, you need good glass to get the best out of it - think primes rather than the nearly useless 12-50mm kit zoom.

For me, the main downside to the OM-D is the reduced DOF control and ergonomics/UI. They are complementary rather than alternative systems.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2013, 02:47:11 AM »
6D (or any FF DSLR) wins in background blur and high ISO noise/DR (if you don't mind the shallower DoF, which in most case only disturbs me). The latest mFT bodies win in everything else (at least for me). Not even an mFT system is pocketable (because we're talking about several lens still).
The Oly E-P5 with its 1/8000 shutter speed and 1/320 flash sync. gives some hint what can be expected in the EM5 replacement which is due this autumn.

I have both Canon and mFT system for about a year now and I'm seriously considering entirely switching to that EM5 replacement. The reason is simple: I'm using Canon less and less nowadays (for portability reasons and recent small Canon bodies don't help in that as the lens are still huge compared to mFT; so actually from balance perspective it's getting even worse).
I'm happy with the amount of background blur that the Oly 45 1.8 can provide (though due to its FL it's mostly for outside) and the quality of blur I can compare only with Canon 50 1.2L which I also happen to own (and use on crop body).

The very powerful Canon flash system and the better balance with it is that I'll probably miss (as any good enough flash is just too big for the small mFT bodies).

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2013, 04:10:31 AM »
If you're considering the Oly EM5 then I think you should also have a good look at the Fuji X-mount bodies.  Much closer to the 6D in terms of IQ, the handling & ergonomics are great, and the lenses, oh man the lenses...  Fancy a 35mm f/1.4 better than Canon's 35L for $600?

The only things that should hold you back from switching to mirrorless are:

 - if you need fast AF for sports, birds, etc.
 - your existing investment in Canon gear i.e. do you want to keep your 70-200L?

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2013, 04:19:16 AM »
If you're considering the Oly EM5 then I think you should also have a good look at the Fuji X-mount bodies.  Much closer to the 6D in terms of IQ, the handling & ergonomics are great, and the lenses, oh man the lenses...  Fancy a 35mm f/1.4 better than Canon's 35L for $600?

The only things that should hold you back from switching to mirrorless are:

 - if you need fast AF for sports, birds, etc.
 - your existing investment in Canon gear i.e. do you want to keep your 70-200L?

Big feature of the OM-D is the AF, super fast and accurate, while the Fuji cameras are awesome for IQ and yes, those lenses~ The AF department still needs catching up, even going up against the 6D, which doesn't have the world's best AF but I'd say a lot more responsive and accurate than Fuji bodies. While I have a Panasonic GH3, got that for video work as well as a second body to my 5DII. I am impressed with the noise performance, the 5D still feels like it cleans up better but at high ISOs from 3200 and beyond the GH3, to me, retains more detail, and at least doesn't get ruined with banding.
And the AF on the GH3 smokes the 5DII, in daylight they're pretty close, but once lights go dim the Gh3 still gets the focus right on and speedy. And I assume the OM-D is similar or maybe better.

I would agree though the 70-200L is a keeper, if I go two camera set up then I have a WA on my GH3 and a 70-200 on my 5DII, I will see how things go next wedding, but Ryan Brenizer loves the OM-D and has photos to show during wedding shoots.

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Re: Olympus OMD EM5 or 6D
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2013, 04:19:16 AM »