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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 03:59:59 PM »
So, to sum it up... you could also use a 50mm 1.8 and patch it to L



just kidding ;)
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 03:59:59 PM »

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 04:05:34 PM »
I love my 50 1.2 and is great for portraits of my kids.  It is obviously nowhere near as sharp as my 135 f2 but love both these lenses.

I have just taken these shots at 30 degrees and 50cm away and 100% cropped.  They are in quite low light, but will hopefully put your mind further at ease, f2.8 and f1.2:





Cheers,

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 04:12:07 PM »
I love my 50 1.2 and is great for portraits of my kids.  It is nowhere near as sharp as my 135 f2 but love both these lenses.

I have just taken these shots at 30 degrees and 50cm away and 100% cropped.  They are in quite low light, but will hopefully put your mind further at ease, f2.8 and f1.2:





Cheers,

Scott
Thanks a lot Scott, your results are identical to mine. Now a can sleep like a child :)
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 05:28:26 PM »
This lens is soft, soft, soft.  50mm is my favorite focal length and I do not own one.  It’s *slightly* sharper than the f/1.4 at very big apertures if you pixel-peep…as soon as you stop down, the f/1.4 is sharper.  It’s razor sharp compared to the old 50mm  f/1.0 though…

The 85mm f/1.2...on the other hand...

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 07:10:30 PM »
>The 85mm f/1.2...on the other hand...

Yes. There they showed what Canon is able to do... ;)
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 08:33:27 PM »
@ OP - I think your copy is fine ;)

Here are some of mines, 24 inches away from the book. Crop 1:1 in LR. Focus point was between "RALES trial"
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 08:33:27 PM »

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 10:40:50 PM »
Its not uncommon for lenses to be a bit fuzzy at close range.  Macro lenses have a different design that makes them sharp even at mfd.
 
The new 24-70mmL f/2.8L MK II is another lens that is not at its best when you get near mfd.

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 11:04:12 PM »
Then you should have read up about it.  The 50mm f/1.4 is sharper at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 is at f/1.4  Actually the f/1.4 is sharper than the f1.2 at almost every aperture (save for f/1.2 which it can't do).

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2013, 12:56:52 AM »
Then you should have read up about it.  The 50mm f/1.4 is sharper at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 is at f/1.4  Actually the f/1.4 is sharper than the f1.2 at almost every aperture (save for f/1.2 which it can't do).

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2013, 11:28:29 AM »
>The 85mm f/1.2...on the other hand...

Yes. There they showed what Canon is able to do... ;)

This lens is one of the reasons that I am, sometimes begrudgingly, sticking with Canon :)  It's a gorgeous piece of glass in every sense of the word.

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2013, 01:27:04 PM »
The 50L in my opinion is way too expensive for its performance, you don't buy a 1.2 lens to not shoot at 1.2 because it's not really sharp. Don't misunderstand me, I had it for some weeks and it got me some good shots but they all were just not comparable to the sharpness of a Sigma 35mm 1.4 or a Canon 135mm 2.0.

That and the exorbitant age of the current 50 1.4 is why everyone screams for a new 50 1.4.
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2013, 04:40:22 PM »
The 50L in my opinion is way too expensive for its performance, you don't buy a 1.2 lens to not shoot at 1.2 because it's not really sharp. Don't misunderstand me, I had it for some weeks and it got me some good shots but they all were just not comparable to the sharpness of a Sigma 35mm 1.4 or a Canon 135mm 2.0.

That and the exorbitant age of the current 50 1.4 is why everyone screams for a new 50 1.4.

Could not say it better.
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2013, 06:09:14 PM »
The 50L can be fairly sharp at f/1.2, just not as sharp as perhaps the 85L II.  Sharpness isn't everything, and this lens has fantastic color and contrast reproduction as well as great bokeh (which is why I shoot it wide open).  Here's an example of it wide open:

http://stinkfoot.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2024

Lots of CA, and certainly not sharp like the 135L but I don't mind  :)

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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2013, 06:25:07 PM »
This picture could've been done with the 50mm f1.4 aswell. But I drift your catch. Don't know why to spend a
grand more as told before, but well, a f1.2 pic ;)
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Re: Disappointed with 50 f/1.2 sharpness @ f/1.2
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