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Re: what to do
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2013, 02:17:22 AM »
i have a 500d and im thinking of  upgrading to a new body  but should  i buy  new glass instead

Neither. Get an underwater housing. 

Of course, I'm just guessing that's your most pressing need, based on the information you provided.   ::)

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Re: what to do
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2013, 02:17:22 AM »

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Re: what to do
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2013, 07:54:54 AM »
Some more information would be helpful for us to give you some advice. First, do you find yourself technically limited by your camera? Or are you just thinking because you have some cash you should get the latest and greatest? The general advice most often given is get better glass rather than replacing your body. A fantastic body with some crappy glass won't give you the images you think you might get. But a great lens on a decent body (and virtually all bodies these days are at least decent) can improve your image quality (which can be somewhat subjective) quite a bit. If you think you want to make photography a long term serious hobby, I'd look at Canon L series lenses, although there have been some recent releases by Sigma and Tamron which provide quite good quality at a significantly lesser price than Canon L. In the case of the new Sigma 35mm, it actually is optically better than the Canon 35mm L.

Have patience people... not everyone checks things every half hour on the computer.... give the OP time to answer the request for more information.

Drizzt321's advice is a sound place to start. To add to it, I would say that there really isn't much difference in sharpness of image between any of the canon bodies.... it's mostly lens dependant. A Rebel with good lglass will take sharper pictures than a 1DX with a $250 kit lens. Under good lighting, IQ (Image Quality) is similar, but the FF bodies will perform much better in poor lighting. The biggest difference between bodies as you go up in price is AF system, something critical if you are after BIF (Birds In Flight) but somewhat less critical if you are after landscapes.... which (hopefully) tend not to move too quickly.

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Re: what to do
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 08:34:50 AM »
i have a 500d and im thinking of  upgrading to a new body  but should  i buy  new glass instead

I had to read your question several times.....and after considerable thought, several google searches, and a phone call to a fellow photog, I've figured out the answer to your question......"maybe"  ;)

Whew...that was a challenging one ;D
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Re: what to do
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2013, 01:45:25 PM »
is my 500d good enough  i shoot mainly still images
ISO quality is of great importance to me if i buy  a 5dmk3  i would have  to buy cheap lens
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Re: what to do
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2013, 02:22:27 PM »
i shoot only landscapes

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Re: what to do
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2013, 02:43:16 PM »
If you're shooting landscapes, you're on a tripod, or at least a monopod most of the time, correct? Then you can generally use a longer shutter speed to avoid higher ISOs, and a mix of open and stopped down.

If you don't have a good quality tripod, and you mostly shoot landscapes, I'd actually invest in a high quality tripod first. It'll cost you as much as some mid priced lenses, but if you select the right one you can use it for years and it will help with your landscapes a lot when it comes to fine detail. Just stop down (higher f-number) your lens to around 6.3-8 which generally increases the lens sharpness by a good bit on nearly all lenses.

If you have a pretty decent tripod, then it's time to look for a lens. Do you want ultra-wide? Or is wide to normal going to be good enough? And do you think you'll move up to full-frame (FF) camera like the 6D or 5d3 in the future? For ultra-wide, there's really only a few options for crop-sensors, but they tend to be decent to good optically. You can get ultra-wide FF lenses that will work on your 500d, but they'll function as wide to normal focal length lenses.

Frankly, one of the cheapest lenses you can get is actually quite sharp. The Canon EF-40mm f/2.8 is quite sharp even wide open, and stopped down improves some. It's also only $200, I think $150 right now after the coupon/rebate that Canon is offering. It'll be in the normal focal range (~64mm effective field of view) on your camera, but it's quite cheap, and a great deal.

If you want wider, the new Sigma 35mm f/1.4 for $900 is very good optically, although it'll be ~56mm FoV for you which is still normal. Next is really looking at the Canon 24/28mm lenses, with the 24L f/1.4 probably being among the better, although still quite expensive. Then there's the Canon 17-40 and 16-35 zooms. The 17-40 might be quite good for you since it gives you ~28-64mm FoV, while avoiding the extreme corners where it tends to be quite soft. It's also relatively inexpensive, $839 ($739 right now after rebate) and pretty good optically, except for extreme corners which on a crop you won't have. The 16-35 v2 is a good bit better in the corners, and a lot more expensive. From what I know, both are quite good optically stopped down, although the 16-35 is still the better.
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Re: what to do
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2013, 03:02:13 PM »
what about 14mm????????

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Re: what to do
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2013, 03:14:45 PM »
+1 on the tripod, I'd start there. There are several threads about tripod choices here.
Then think about a CPL filter if you don't already own one.
You'll mostly shoot stopped down, even kit lenses perform decently stopped down. So instead of thinking primarily about better lenses, you should maybe think about a different focal length that you currently don't have.
If you want to upgrade the camera for better IQ, consider the 6D over the 5DmkIII. You don't really need the better AF of the 5D for landscapes.

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Re: what to do
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2013, 03:18:02 PM »
Before the 5D3 got mentioned I was going to say 6D, now that it has, and landscape is in the picture, get the 6D.

And if you're short on cash for lenses, the Pancake is actually pretty amazing.
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Re: what to do
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2013, 04:34:30 PM »
what about 14mm????????

14mm is pretty good, but for $2200 I'm hard pressed to recommend it for you right now. The 17-40 does quite well, especially on crop, and is more versatile and costs a heck of a lot less. For that money you can get the tripod, 17-40, and one or two non-L primes from Canon such as the 40 f/2.8 or 85 f/1.8 or 50 f/1.4, although they are not really landscape lenses.
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Re: what to do
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2013, 07:40:20 AM »
is gitzo a good tripod

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2013, 07:50:37 AM »
I agree film frame is the way to go for landscape, and I also concur with a good tripod.   but you can probably get away with using a 5dc  for around 600ish  and then getting a lens.   the classic isn't awesome in low light,  but that is what the tripod and long exposure times are for.   it doesn't take successive shots quickly,  again...  not  really  necessary. 

 as for a lens,  the 17-40  will do.   when stopped down it is a pretty nice lens.
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Re: what to do
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2013, 07:52:33 AM »
is gitzo a good tripod

 people talk about it here like it is...  and I'm willing to believe them.  I have a $40  tripod that I like,  but people don't share my enthusiasm for cost effective tripod.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2013, 07:52:33 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2013, 10:16:11 AM »
is gitzo a good tripod

 people talk about it here like it is...  and I'm willing to believe them.  I have a $40  tripod that I like,  but people don't share my enthusiasm for cost effective tripod.
LOL! What about a $40 tripod that one uses for say 30 years?
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Re: what to do
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2013, 10:58:15 AM »
people talk about it here like it is...  and I'm willing to believe them.  I have a $40  tripod that I like,  but people don't share my enthusiasm for cost effective tripod.

I had received a tripod years ago as a gift, and it worked ok with my 20D and 17-55.  It was not robust enough to handle the 70-200 II, so I used it with the lightest lenses I had, and that was iffy.  The legs were plenty strong/stable enough, it was the center column/head interface that was weak.  One of my favorite pictures was taken with it and the 100L on a beach.  The legs did not disassemble and I was unable to get all the sand out, so it started making grooves along the metal legs.  The head/column interface failed completely at the end of last year.  I'd like the tripod to keep the heaviest lens/body combo stable and to be able to be taken apart to be cleaned.  Can it be achieved with a $50 tripod... no.  Can it be achieved with a $300+ tripod... yes.  It's up to user to determine which type, material, features are applicable. 

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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2013, 10:58:15 AM »