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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #120 on: May 29, 2015, 02:32:02 AM »
I certainly think there's a market for a 500 f5.6 LIS and a 600 f5.6 LIS

I wonder...what if the rumored lens is not an L-series lens?

Then absolutely nobody here will be interested in it because it won't be "cool" enough for them to own.

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« Reply #120 on: May 29, 2015, 02:32:02 AM »

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« Reply #121 on: May 29, 2015, 02:37:00 AM »
I certainly think there's a market for a 500 f5.6 LIS and a 600 f5.6 LIS

I wonder...what if the rumored lens is not an L-series lens?

Then absolutely nobody here will be interested in it because it won't be "cool" enough for them to own.
You mean like all those people here talking about the 50, 40 and 24 STMs or the Tamrons and Sigma teles that are also not L and therefore not "cool"?
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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #122 on: May 29, 2015, 03:27:11 AM »
I certainly think there's a market for a 500 f5.6 LIS and a 600 f5.6 LIS

I wonder...what if the rumored lens is not an L-series lens?

Then absolutely nobody here will be interested in it because it won't be "cool" enough for them to own.
You mean like all those people here talking about the 50, 40 and 24 STMs or the Tamrons and Sigma teles that are also not L and therefore not "cool"?
There is (almost) no greater danger than in generalizations.

+1 if its sharp it will be cool, as much as the ef-s 17-55 is cool, anyway I think if its a prime its will definitely be an L, if a zoom and affordable then mostly not L.
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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #123 on: May 29, 2015, 04:21:00 AM »
That has to be a typo, or the lens must be used and in poor condition.

There are actually two retailers with a Sigma 200-500 f/2.8 on sale for the same price (€6,999) so I don't think it's a typo. Here is the other one:
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/sigma-apo-200-500mm-f2-8-400-1000mm-ex-dg-canon/9200000018461285/?Referrer=ADVNLTWE0020149200000018461285PLZ
I've seen it being offered for less than 10k€ before but this is the lowest I've seen. I think it's a difficult lens to sell hence the "low" price.

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« Reply #124 on: May 29, 2015, 06:13:05 AM »
I would think that just about anything that Canon comes out with that is at 40% to 50% of MSRP of the current supertelephoto lenses would be classified as "affordable". Affordable is a relative term in this case.

I don't know what Canon would make the consumer give up from the top of the line lenses to the "affordable" lenses. One stop of light? Two stops? Two mode IS instead of 3?

Would people buy a 600mm f/5.6 at say $4500 USD if it offered 80% of the IQ of the 600 f/4 II?

I can't realistically see Canon offering something that gives 80% of a 500/600 f/4 VII at 1/3 of the cost of one or less.
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« Reply #125 on: May 29, 2015, 06:58:54 AM »
I can't realistically see Canon offering something that gives 80% of a 500/600 f/4 VII at 1/3 of the cost of one or less.

They already do for shorter lenses – 85mm, 200mm, 300mm, 400mm.   The point for those lenses, as for the rumored lens here, is that the cheaper lenses are slower by 1-2 stops.
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« Reply #126 on: May 29, 2015, 08:01:44 AM »
Would people buy a 600mm f/5.6 at say $4500 USD if it offered 80% of the IQ of the 600 f/4 II?
Yes because a 600 f/5.6L IS would be also smaller (in diameter) and lighter not only cheaper.

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« Reply #127 on: May 29, 2015, 08:32:08 AM »
It should be interesting then. Time will tell.
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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #128 on: May 29, 2015, 02:29:36 PM »
I certainly think there's a market for a 500 f5.6 LIS and a 600 f5.6 LIS
Especially if it's sharp wide open. Given that the new DO II optics look very good...these new lenses could be VERY small and light.


Given the price of the 400 DO, a 500 F5.6 and 600 F5.6 DO would be similarly priced.

Look at the prices of the 400 F2.8 and 600 F4.  Expect a similar ratio.

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« Reply #129 on: May 29, 2015, 02:59:55 PM »
I can't realistically see Canon offering something that gives 80% of a 500/600 f/4 VII at 1/3 of the cost of one or less.

They already do for shorter lenses – 85mm, 200mm, 300mm, 400mm.   The point for those lenses, as for the rumored lens here, is that the cheaper lenses are slower by 1-2 stops.

I think a perfect example of this is the 70-200 IS zoom lenses. The IQ on the F4 version and the F2.8 versions are almost identical.... yet one pays half as much for the F4 version....
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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #130 on: May 29, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »
I certainly think there's a market for a 500 f5.6 LIS and a 600 f5.6 LIS

I wonder...what if the rumored lens is not an L-series lens?

Then absolutely nobody here will be interested in it because it won't be "cool" enough for them to own.
I own the 100mm non-L macro lens. I'd be more than happy for a 500mm non-L (maybe even non IS) lens with similar relative performance to the 100 macro.
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« Reply #131 on: May 29, 2015, 06:46:07 PM »
a zoom to compete with tamron and sigma's 150-600 offerings i reckon. even if the iq were the same it would have the canon name and af. a big seller for sure.

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Re: Canon Developing a New Slower Supertelephoto Lens [CR2]
« Reply #132 on: May 29, 2015, 07:18:53 PM »
I can't realistically see Canon offering something that gives 80% of a 500/600 f/4 VII at 1/3 of the cost of one or less.

They already do for shorter lenses – 85mm, 200mm, 300mm, 400mm.   The point for those lenses, as for the rumored lens here, is that the cheaper lenses are slower by 1-2 stops.

And even shorter than that - the 35/2 IS is what, 1/3rd the price of the 35L? Not sure what people would call it its performance as a percentage of the 35L, but it's awesome.

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« Reply #132 on: May 29, 2015, 07:18:53 PM »

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« Reply #133 on: Today at 09:33:09 AM »
600mm f/5.6 IS $3500   ...  That gets some volume sales.

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