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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 12:26:24 PM »
Constant F4 would have my attention  :'(

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 12:58:34 PM »
This one is really interesting FOR ME:
  * I don't like UWA to much but they are helpful occasionally
  * if the lower max aperture helps to keep that thing very small (compared to just a 10-22 EF-S) it might be a good all round camera (@22mm) with UWA capability)
  * the IS helps to shoot at equivalent light conditions compared to the EF-M 22 2.0 - so there is no need for that lens (except you need bokeh)
  * if the lower max aperture keeps the thing at lower cost and reduces flare by reducing the number of lens groups and leads to a very high quality (straight to the edges) - it would be a good trade off

Just the right EOS-M body is missing - sth. with a higher count of images per battery charge (500 or so) and a viewfinder for bright environmental conditions/video!
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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 01:04:36 PM »
The Canon EF-S 10-22mm is a f/3.5-4.5 lens. Here is the size/weight; 3.3" x 3.5", 13.6 oz. / 83.5 x 89.8mm, 385g. It uses a 77mm filter. This is a BIG lens!

How much smaller will a 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM be ??? I doubt that the camera/lens combo will fit in a pocket.

Seems to me a small/light f/2.0 11mm prime would be a better choice.
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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 01:20:28 PM »
Is Canon even aware of some of the great sharp fast lenses around for Micro Four Thirds?  This lens is really slow.  Canon just does't seem up to the challenge.  This camera is a bad investment.  It will be gone in a year or two. With the presumed death of compact cameras Canon will start to lose revenue.  a business plan of doubling the price of all of their new cameras lenses does not seem to be a good long term plan
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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 01:21:44 PM »
The system is lacking a true wide angle lens, along with many other things.
The main thing that is lacking is a true will to make a serious mirrorless camera, in order to compete with Fuji and Sony.
Even as a some pros are switching to m4/3 and DX mirrorless Canon still sees mirrorless as a Hello Kitty market.

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The only Full Frame Mirrorless that makes any sense is the Sony a99. It uses ALL their a-mount lenses. Do you want a mirrorless Canon DSLR with an EVF that uses EF lenses ???

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 01:58:54 PM »
The Canon EF-S 10-22mm is a f/3.5-4.5 lens. Here is the size/weight; 3.3" x 3.5", 13.6 oz. / 83.5 x 89.8mm, 385g. It uses a 77mm filter. This is a BIG lens!

How much smaller will a 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM be ??? I doubt that the camera/lens combo will fit in a pocket.

Seems to me a small/light f/2.0 11mm prime would be a better choice.

rumor says 55mm filter sizeā€¦ small enough for you?
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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 02:14:49 PM »
The system is lacking a true wide angle lens, along with many other things.
The main thing that is lacking is a true will to make a serious mirrorless camera, in order to compete with Fuji and Sony.
Even as a some pros are switching to m4/3 and DX mirrorless Canon still sees mirrorless as a Hello Kitty market.

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Dear Canon, just give us a full frame body and consider the competition smashed.
The only Full Frame Mirrorless that makes any sense is the Sony a99. It uses ALL their a-mount lenses. Do you want a mirrorless Canon DSLR with an EVF that uses EF lenses ???

I just want the smallest and lightest full frame camera, in other words mirrorless.

And besides, in a mirrorless camera there is no mirror slap, causing vibration. This has a number of advantages as the photographic workflow will be a lot more seamless/uniform, as one doesn't have to place the camera in a 'mirror lockup' mode in certain shooting scenarios to eliminate the mirror slap.

And about the EVF, I don't really care how bad it is. I'll be shooting with live view anyway.

I dont care about AF speed or FPS either. Don't need that for my kind of work. :)

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 02:14:49 PM »

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2013, 02:25:10 PM »
The Canon EF-S 10-22mm is a f/3.5-4.5 lens. Here is the size/weight; 3.3" x 3.5", 13.6 oz. / 83.5 x 89.8mm, 385g. It uses a 77mm filter. This is a BIG lens!

How much smaller will a 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM be ??? I doubt that the camera/lens combo will fit in a pocket.

Potentially quite a bit smaller. You aren't comparing apples to apples here. The EF-M format has a MUCH shorter flange focal distance vs. EF/EF-S (18mm vs. 44mm). This allows for alot of opportunity for space savings in the lens.

I'd expect it's physical size will be a good amount shorter then the EF-S 10-22.

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2013, 03:15:13 PM »
Good news. Just received my EOS-M camera yesterday and am very happy with its performance and this news of a  new 11-22mm lens is exciting.
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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2013, 03:38:51 PM »


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Dear Canon, just give us a full frame body and consider the competition smashed.
The only Full Frame Mirrorless that makes any sense is the Sony a99. It uses ALL their a-mount lenses. Do you want a mirrorless Canon DSLR with an EVF that uses EF lenses ???

I just want the smallest and lightest full frame camera, in other words mirrorless.

And besides, in a mirrorless camera there is no mirror slap, causing vibration. This has a number of advantages as the photographic workflow will be a lot more seamless/uniform, as one doesn't have to place the camera in a 'mirror lockup' mode in certain shooting scenarios to eliminate the mirror slap.

And about the EVF, I don't really care how bad it is. I'll be shooting with live view anyway.

I dont care about AF speed or FPS either. Don't need that for my kind of work. :)

Cameras are just tools, buy what best suits your needs. Maybe it's time to sell your Canon gear and buy a Sony a99 and some of their high quality Zeiss lenses.

BTW EVF is the future.
Here's a Quote from Kirk Tuck (an Austin Tx commercial shooter who used to use Canon): "All cameras are good these days. I don't care about brands but I know that for my paying work I'll never willingly go back to a camera that doesn't have an EVF as an integral part of the design. Now, after selling off other systems, every camera I have except the Sony a850 is equipped with an EVF. And when I pick up the 850 I have to slow down and think more about operation. That means I think less about the image. I like the real time feedback of the newer finders. They make the feedback loop much more effective." Emphasis mine.  Quote is from the next to last paragraph  http://visualsciencelab.blogspot.com/2013/05/another-day-at-photo-office-working.html

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2013, 04:30:19 PM »
I have a M and it's bloody marvellous !  With the 22mm pancake, it's light for hill walking, pictures from it are great, it looks like a cheap compact to a hit and run thief...   And importantly, gets the important capture of your life when the FF + f2.8 is just too heavy or big or expensive looking to carry along.

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2013, 04:31:15 PM »

How much smaller will a 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM be ??? I doubt that the camera/lens combo will fit in a pocket.

Potentially quite a bit smaller. You aren't comparing apples to apples here. The EF-M format has a MUCH shorter flange focal distance vs. EF/EF-S (18mm vs. 44mm). This allows for alot of opportunity for space savings in the lens.

I'd expect it's physical size will be a good amount shorter then the EF-S 10-22.

TTYL

My guess is 2.8" vs 3.3' and 9 Oz vs 13.6 Oz. Still too big for a pocket camera.

My point is that I'd rather have a f/2 11mm and a f/2 22mm lens combo than a zoom. I've ownen a  EF-S f/3.5-4.5 10-22mm since 2006, and I seldom use anything except 10mm and 22mm. And I've always wanter the lens to be a constant f/2.8, but that would make the lens even bigger :(

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2013, 04:50:18 PM »
My guess is 2.8" vs 3.3' and 9 Oz vs 13.6 Oz.

my guess is your guess is way off.

When and if this lens is ever released, then we'll both know  ;)

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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2013, 04:50:18 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2013, 05:50:30 PM »
I agree with @ecka... IS (nowadays) is more of a feature for amateur video more so than still photos.  I wouldn't take serious landscape or architectural photos hand holding my camera at 1/15s, although just having that ability helps.
There a lot of churches, buildings will not allow either tripod or monopod. therefore you have to hand hold the camera. You will want IS in that situation.

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Re: EF-M 11-22mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Announcement Soon? [CR2]
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2013, 04:26:42 AM »
My concern for the new lenses are size and weight.
More pancake lenses!

Agreed...  More pancakes all round please! on a side note I would also love to see a EF 20mm pancake.
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