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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2013, 07:10:03 PM »
I'm curious about your statement about the 35L rendering. I've been using my 35L for about 6 years now and it's always been creamy and very nice when shot wide open. Sure it needs critical focussing and it's AF isn't that great in really low light. But the rendering is really something special. I use mine alongside an 85L for weddings and they are easily my most used lenses. The two lenses have a certain look which compliment each other.

You can look at the images I posted here: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=14161.60. Often, there are no problems with the bokeh but sometimes, there are.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2013, 04:16:29 AM »
I'm curious about your statement about the 35L rendering. I've been using my 35L for about 6 years now and it's always been creamy and very nice when shot wide open. Sure it needs critical focussing and it's AF isn't that great in really low light. But the rendering is really something special. I use mine alongside an 85L for weddings and they are easily my most used lenses. The two lenses have a certain look which compliment each other.

You can look at the images I posted here: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=14161.60. Often, there are no problems with the bokeh but sometimes, there are.

I don't see any bokeh issues with any of those photos in the thread which you posted, the thread seems to mention some green CA around the Bokeh rings...but hey that's really minor and if it bothers you....it's easily corrected in PS / LR. I would honestly say that if you are looking for optical perfection...good luck with that. Most lenses have some kind of optical design compromise somewhere, get used to it and adapt to make up for it. The only execption to this is flakey AF or excessivley soft images.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2013, 10:59:20 AM »
I don't see any bokeh issues with any of those photos in the thread which you posted[...]
I am talking about the image below. It is not some cherry-picked example, I have experienced this quite a few times. The Sigma can be quite bad as well, probably worse: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zackhuggins/8483812543/#sizes/z/in/photostream/. Read the comment below the photo, I have generated quite a traffic to this image!  :) No offense to the owner, it is a lovely photo.



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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2013, 02:22:56 PM »
I don't see any bokeh issues with any of those photos in the thread which you posted[...]
I am talking about the image below. It is not some cherry-picked example, I have experienced this quite a few times. The Sigma can be quite bad as well, probably worse: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zackhuggins/8483812543/#sizes/z/in/photostream/. Read the comment below the photo, I have generated quite a traffic to this image!  :) No offense to the owner, it is a lovely photo.


No offense taken. ;)

Haha I admit I was surprised at the sudden increase in pageviews!
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2013, 05:51:13 PM »
I returned my sigma yesterday and got my 35L today. I was extremely happy the first 15minutes. The handling is right; the AF is substantially faster (maybe 30%?) and incredibly consistent; and the bokeh is beautiful.

Then came slight disappointment. On computer screen even without zooming there's very visible CA and purple fringing on some images. I think I'm seeing them because I know where to find them.

Sharpness wise the 35L is sharp enough at 1.4. Maybe Sigma is sharper but the 35L is sharp enough for my purposes.

I love the AF and handling of the 35L. Every shot so far is accurate. The CA is a bit annoying. Maybe this is the biggest limitation of this old lens. There's less vignetting than Sigma but I care less about this. I think the 35L is too expensive also.  The Sigma is priced right. But its AF is a big disappointment, at least as far as my copy is concerned.

I'm leaning towards keeping the 35L. There is quite a bit of work to remove CA in LR, but maybe I'll live with that.
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2013, 06:51:12 PM »
I'm leaning towards keeping the 35L. There is quite a bit of work to remove CA in LR, but maybe I'll live with that.

Try DPP. Digital Lens Optimizer and lens aberration correction make it simple.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2013, 07:12:19 PM »
I returned my sigma yesterday and got my 35L today. I was extremely happy the first 15minutes. The handling is right; the AF is substantially faster (maybe 30%?) and incredibly consistent; and the bokeh is beautiful.

Then came slight disappointment. On computer screen even without zooming there's very visible CA and purple fringing on some images. I think I'm seeing them because I know where to find them.

Sharpness wise the 35L is sharp enough at 1.4. Maybe Sigma is sharper but the 35L is sharp enough for my purposes.

I love the AF and handling of the 35L. Every shot so far is accurate. The CA is a bit annoying. Maybe this is the biggest limitation of this old lens. There's less vignetting than Sigma but I care less about this. I think the 35L is too expensive also.  The Sigma is priced right. But its AF is a big disappointment, at least as far as my copy is concerned.

I'm leaning towards keeping the 35L. There is quite a bit of work to remove CA in LR, but maybe I'll live with that.



Maybe I'm missing the point but I just remove CA with one button in LR. Removes enough of it to be a non issue for me at least.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2013, 07:12:19 PM »

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2013, 07:39:36 PM »
I returned my sigma yesterday and got my 35L today. I was extremely happy the first 15minutes. The handling is right; the AF is substantially faster (maybe 30%?) and incredibly consistent; and the bokeh is beautiful.

Then came slight disappointment. On computer screen even without zooming there's very visible CA and purple fringing on some images. I think I'm seeing them because I know where to find them.

Sharpness wise the 35L is sharp enough at 1.4. Maybe Sigma is sharper but the 35L is sharp enough for my purposes.

I love the AF and handling of the 35L. Every shot so far is accurate. The CA is a bit annoying. Maybe this is the biggest limitation of this old lens. There's less vignetting than Sigma but I care less about this. I think the 35L is too expensive also.  The Sigma is priced right. But its AF is a big disappointment, at least as far as my copy is concerned.

I'm leaning towards keeping the 35L. There is quite a bit of work to remove CA in LR, but maybe I'll live with that.



Maybe I'm missing the point but I just remove CA with one button in LR. Removes enough of it to be a non issue for me at least.


With pictures taken at 2.8, one click on "remove CA" in LR will take care of most unwanted colored lines. Pictures taken below 2.8 need manual defringing with the dropper. Maybe I'm not doing it correctly. Any insights would be appreciated. That's just my observation from 3 hrs of owning it. Could be wrong.
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2013, 07:43:14 PM »
Anyway, I think my point is that no lens is perfect and you need to decide for yourself what is more important.
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2013, 08:17:57 PM »
OMG...I own all L glass except my Zeiss 21mm, My Sigma 50mm f/1.4  ("for me" kicks butt on Canon f/1.8 & f/1.4...and blows the 50mm L away on price ($399 right now), size and "for me" similar image quality) and my Sigma 35mm f/1.4.  The price was just right and the focusing and image quality all the way around is as good or better than the Canon 35mm L "for me".
No-Brainer fantastic lens for an active photographer. I don't "over analyze", no lens stands up to that. I agree with all of the reviews I have read...The Sigma...Price, Build & Performance make it an absolute winner "for me".  ...can't wait to see the next offering in the Art Series line...Hope it is a winner, too!
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2013, 11:04:13 PM »
Then came slight disappointment. On computer screen even without zooming there's very visible CA and purple fringing on some images. I think I'm seeing them because I know where to find them.
This should be in high contrast cases and worse away from the center. In "normal" conditions, I see no CA. You can also see it in OOF highlights.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2013, 01:43:14 PM »
No agonizing this time. I'm returning the 35 L as well. I called Canon. They asked me to show them pictures that demonstrate color fringing problem. The tech called me back and agreed to accept a return. I'm really not a pixel peeper. If a problem is visible at 100% zoomed in then it's not a problem. If a problem is visible without zooming in then it's an issue. When I use LR, I rarely zoom in to 100%. But the pictures taken with the L were so flawed that I can't help zooming in to see what's going on.

I'm fairly objective when I evaluated the sigma vs. Canon. Now that I tried both I think I'm gonna choose sigma. I'm giving it a second chance and am ordering a new one. Hopefully if the AF works ok then I'm happy.

I don't regret trying the Canon. It's probably not so bad before the sigma 35 came out. Given the price and the shrinking resale market for the L, I think sigma is a better option for me personally. 
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2013, 02:27:32 PM »
Hi Forum. First post. Bought Sigma 35mm, 1.4 last saturday and took a lot of shuts. In many of the shouts the AF was happy to pick one or more AF points, but afterwards the picture when zoomed showed a focus planed that was in front of selected AF point/points.
Took my 60D and lens to the reseller and he/they validated by findings with a number of pictures. They swapped the lens with another one, which I now will try out.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2013, 02:42:41 PM »
I've never tried the Sigma 35 1.4, but I image you will LOVE your new 35L, it is one of my favorite lenses I've ever owned or tested. The 35L on the 5Dii is my go-to when I'm venturing out with only one body and one lens.

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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »
I think you made right decision, I my self sold my Sigma 35mm f1.4 for my D800 and got the Canon 35mmf2IS for my 5Dmk2.
I think the small barrel size of the 35mm f2 with IS ,with the super effective IS, is a bit more practical lens in real life than the expensive Sigma or the huge 35mm f1.4 Carls Zeiss or the  Nikon version of it, and I even go further to say getting a Canon FF body for just the Canon 35mm f2IS is worth it.

I think the 135mm f2 L and the 35mm f2IS make the 6D and the 5D3 so attractive , Nikon's got nothing like that small but sharp new gen 35mm prime with effective image stabilizer.
Honestly, I have never understood why so many people rave about the Sigma 35mm f1.4 or Zeiss 35mm f1.4 , which I had and used on my 5DMK2 for a couple months and sold.
the Zeiss 35mm f1.4 is ridiculously huge as a prime and it was not that special optically.
I really think the Canon 35mm f2ISUSM is the best (or more precisely most practical) 35mm prime ever made for any SLR system.

I think the Sigma 35mm f1.4 is overrated.


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Re: I'm returning my Sigma 35 1.4
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »