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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2013, 01:17:05 PM »
Is the bag included with 70-200 f/4 IS USM...?
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2013, 01:17:05 PM »

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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2013, 01:57:44 PM »
I have the 70-200 IS version and use it with the 1.4Extender since day 1. I needed more reach and did not want to
Wait for vs two of the 100-400 L lens to come out. I think it will cost more than the $1,549.99 that I paid. I like the
Reach of the 100-400 much more. I am still learning how to best use his lens. If you can wait for vs2 to come out then
Be prepared to pay more than the current price. It will be an awsume lens. I can use my 1.4 and 2 X Extenders with
Both the 70-200 and 100-400 lenses. I do not think the 70-300 can be used with extenders. A 2 X is all most a waste
of time but the 1.4 works flawlessly on the 70-200.  Good Luck in making your decision.
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2013, 02:33:01 PM »
Is the bag included with 70-200 f/4 IS USM...?
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The F4 IS comes with a soft pouch, the 2.8 IS II comes with a rigid pouch.

To the OP´s question: From what I read the 70-200 F4 IS is sharper than the non-IS, additionally the IS will guarantee you sharp photos in low light conditions that the non-IS simply cannot meet, handheld of course.  I have the IS and produces incredibly sharp photos event at F4 with a full frame (have not tested yet with a crop sensor). If the choice is between those tow, by all means get the IS without a doubt.

Regarding the dilema for more reach beyond 200mm, I pondered getting the 100-400 or 70-300 in another post but chose instead  a 70-200 IS II (despite already having a 70-200 F4 IS that may get sold later) simply because I can put a 2x extender on it. So far I´ve tested both the 70-200´s with a 1.4x II and quality is very, very good beyond f6.3 on the F4 and beyond 5.6 on the IS II (and I have the 85L and both Zeiss Makro Planars to compare sharpness). Based on what I read the 2x will not be as good  but very close to the 100-400 at 400mm (some say it is as good). I´m willing to give it a try but it must be with the new 2x III though.

To me, the overall advantage with the 70-200 IS II is complete flexibility:
- you can perfectly use both the 1.4 and 2x extenders
- you get fantastic versatility from that combo covering 70-400mm and still have 200mm at 2.8 when needed.
- Added bonus you maintain the 1.2meter close up focusing capability of the lens even with the extenders so focusing something at 400mm focal at 1.2meters should be interesting.
-resell value of the IS II is pretty good, specially if you buy it now that Canon has a cashback on it (at least in my country)
-Finally, when using this on a crop sensor you obviously get 1.6 times more reach but more importantly you can keep ISO on check cause even with the 2x you can guarantee f5.6

The penalty, go figure, is of course the added weight (which I confirm you´ll experince vs the F4 IS) and the fact the 2.8 IS II plus the extenders is the most expensive option, though it is modular as you can sell either the lens or the extenders later if not happy.
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2013, 03:17:30 PM »
One thing not mentioned is lens flare.  I had a non-IS 70-200/4 for years, but could not shoot into the lght, especially with the sun in the frame, without having objectionable flare.  This is one of the reasons I sold it - my 200/2.8 prime is much better.
Here in New Zealand the IS version is almost twice the price of the non-IS.  While IS would be nice, its not worth the premium for me.  Weather sealing is not important to me.  Apart from flare, I was happy with the resolution of the lens on crop and FF.
If I would be buying one of these zooms again, I'd go for the 70-300L, as the reach is important to me on FF.
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2013, 08:27:28 AM »
I forgot to mention another feature of the 70-200 f/4L IS - there are two IS modes, so if you do panning action shots it can be really useful. The IS can also correct for mirror slap. Overall the IS on this lens is very impressive.
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2013, 04:11:45 PM »
I owned a f4 and now I have a f4 IS. In the IS version I noticed a MUCH faster autofocus and a slightly better sharpness :)
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2013, 05:01:19 PM »
I have the F4 non IS version and I've gotten quit a few good shots with it with my T1i, but I'd love to have the IS.  It was about twice the cost though. At that point in my hobby I was unwilling to pay a grand. 

It was quite a step up from my kit as far as contrast and color.

Can't wait to pair it with a new body with better ISO performance.


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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2013, 08:53:44 AM »
So... Next week I'll probably buy the IS versione forma 1148 euro in a local shop in my town :-)
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2013, 01:01:58 PM »
... the 400L 5.6?  ... Probably won't be able to hand hold that one though

Only way I use mine ... just chase up the ISO if the shutterspeed falls below 1/500.


One thing not mentioned is lens flare.  I had a non-IS 70-200/4 for years, but could not shoot into the lght, especially with the sun in the frame, without having objectionable flare.

I don't have this problem with my 70-200mm f/4 ... perhaps your filter caused the flares (or the lack of one)?
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2013, 04:12:48 AM »
One thing not mentioned is lens flare.  I had a non-IS 70-200/4 for years, but could not shoot into the lght, especially with the sun in the frame, without having objectionable flare.

I don't have this problem with my 70-200mm f/4 ... perhaps your filter caused the flares (or the lack of one)?
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While I keep filters on most of lenses most of the time, I remove them when shooting into the light.  Here is the best photo of a series shooting into the rising sun.  The subsequent photos when the sun rose further were unusable (and deleted).  This was 200mm @ 5.6 on a 5DII.

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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2013, 05:52:15 AM »
One thing not mentioned is lens flare.  I had a non-IS 70-200/4 for years, but could not shoot into the lght, especially with the sun in the frame, without having objectionable flare.

I don't have this problem with my 70-200mm f/4 ... perhaps your filter caused the flares (or the lack of one)?

While I keep filters on most of lenses most of the time, I remove them when shooting into the light.  Here is the best photo of a series shooting into the rising sun.  The subsequent photos when the sun rose further were unusable (and deleted).  This was 200mm @ 5.6 on a 5DII.


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fantastc picture!
I don't use filters anymore... I had some good quality ones but I was never satisfied...
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Re: 70-200L f/4 IS vs 70-200L f/4
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2013, 05:52:15 AM »