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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2013, 09:17:22 PM »
I don't know to rent the 70-200 F/4L IS or the 70-300L. Which should I take?

I would rent a 70-300L based on what I've read about it recently.  But, you may not need that much reach. 

I agree with Haydn1971 that a 135L, possibly with a 1.4 TC would be a nice option.  I seldom leave my 135 at home these days.
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« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2013, 09:41:39 PM »
Since the 70-200 f/4 IS doesn't weigh much less than the 70-300L or take up much less space, you might as well go for the latter; even if you don't need the extra reach, the 70-300 is very good at isolating subjects and creates superb bokeh at 300mm.  They're both excellent lenses, but I don't think I've used my 70-200 f/4 IS since buying the 70-300L. 

As for the rest, while your other two suggestions make a lot of sense to me, if you like photographing in low light you might want to consider increasing the proportion of lenses you have with IS (e.g., unless 17-24 matters a lot to you, the 24-105, with its good IS, might prove more useful than the 17-40) instead.  Flash and tripods are all very well, but in London and Paris I doubt there are many interiors where you will be allowed to use either, let alone both (and even if they did, they're annoying to everyone else - it's hard to avoid crowds in either city, and in Paris, at least, people actually do still use churches for their intended use and don't seem entirely delighted by those who treat them as tourist attractions). 

You could always lighten your walk-around load by taking the 40mm pancake with you as well; unless you're more of a wide-angle guy, you might find that you can happily spend all day with nothing but the 70-300L on your camera, with the 40mm in your pocket just in case.

(It probably goes without saying that no matter what lenses you leave behind you'll wish you had brought at least one of them, and that there will be at least one lens you take with you that you'll never use.)
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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2013, 08:15:48 AM »
Since the 70-200 f/4 IS doesn't weigh much less than the 70-300L or take up much less space, you might as well go for the latter; even if you don't need the extra reach, the 70-300 is very good at isolating subjects and creates superb bokeh at 300mm.  They're both excellent lenses, but I don't think I've used my 70-200 f/4 IS since buying the 70-300L. 

I value your opinion since you have used both. I do have the 70-200 f/4L IS.

However, to me there is difference in weight and in size. True the 70-300L can be shorter at 70mm but it is thicker! This can be a problem or not depending on the bag used. To me it is.

Also, the fact that it is thicker and (more important) the rings are reversed makes the 70-300 a more difficult to handle lens (otherwise I would think seriously about it...)

As for the rest, while your other two suggestions make a lot of sense to me, if you like photographing in low light you might want to consider increasing the proportion of lenses you have with IS (e.g., unless 17-24 matters a lot to you, the 24-105, with its good IS, might prove more useful than the 17-40) instead.  Flash and tripods are all very well, but in London and Paris I doubt there are many interiors where you will be allowed to use either, let alone both (and even if they did, they're annoying to everyone else - it's hard to avoid crowds in either city, and in Paris, at least, people actually do still use churches for their intended use and don't seem entirely delighted by those who treat them as tourist attractions). 

Flash could be used in Madame Tussaud Museum and in some internal dark places in London Zoo.
Tripod can be used for night shots around the Big Ben,  parliament and the Trafalgar square. 17-24mm is a very useful focal range too.


(It probably goes without saying that no matter what lenses you leave behind you'll wish you had brought at least one of them, and that there will be at least one lens you take with you that you'll never use.)
That is the best comment ever and I believe it applies to all of us.

P.S Irrespective of my opinion regarding 70-300L I am very interested on your further comments on that lens.

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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2013, 11:08:19 AM »
I didn't want to bring the 24-105L as it's redundant but I'll squeeze it into my carry-on. I might use it, I might not but everyone agree's I should take it.

Most everyone here agrees that 300mm is seldom used in these citys. So the 70-200 f/4L IS is the choice for me.

That makes this

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Should I take one of my additional fast primes like the 24L II or the 135L? I could fit one more in my carry-on.


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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2013, 12:01:51 PM »
I didn't want to bring the 24-105L as it's redundant but I'll squeeze it into my carry-on. I might use it, I might not but everyone agree's I should take it.

Most everyone here agrees that 300mm is seldom used in these citys. So the 70-200 f/4L IS is the choice for me.

That makes this

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-50L
-70-200L F/4 IS
-24-105L
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Should I take one of my additional fast primes like the 24L II or the 135L? I could fit one more in my carry-on.

Honestly, I'd suggest bringing what you use regularly:  24L II, 50L, 135L and then add a 1.4x III if you want more reach.  You'll know exactly when to use each lens, and you'll have low light/shallow DOF capability across the range.  How often will you really need the UWA at 17mm instead of using the 24L II?  If you plan on using it indoors, renting a TS-E 17 for perspective corrections might be an option but that will require a tripod to do it well.  If you're not bring a tripod, is the 17mm really going to be used well to make it worth it?

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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2013, 12:39:49 PM »
Paris & London for a week. I will shoot a little of everything and want to travel light with f/4 zooms and a fast 50mm.

I'd just take along the 24-105, 50 and the 135/2, since you like that lens. Excellent IQ plus it is black and far less conspicuos than even a 70-200/4 (white).   

Flash? Will depend on what/where you will shoot. But at many of the interesting places / churches / sites / museums etc. flash photography is strictly forbidden. If it is just for fill flash/portraits on the go, a small & light 270EX II will do just nicely.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2013, 12:44:34 PM »
Should I take one of my additional fast primes like the 24L II or the 135L? I could fit one more in my carry-on.

Another plug for the 135L!  You can take some great portraits with this in Europe.
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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2013, 12:47:48 PM »
All photography is prohibited in many larger churches such as St Paul's and Sacre Coeur out of respect to people during prayer
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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2013, 02:40:42 PM »
Paris & London for a week. I will shoot a little of everything and want to travel light with f/4 zooms and a fast 50mm.

I'd just take along the 24-105, 50 and the 135/2, since you like that lens. It is black an far less conspicuos than even a 70-200/4.   

Flash? Will depend on what/where you will shoot. But at many of the interesting places / churches / sites / museums etc. flash photography is strictly forbidden. If it is just for fill flash/portraits on the go, a small & light 270EX II will do just nicely.

I'll be carrying my crumpler around town and my airport airstream can hold stuff in my room if I need it. If I found a really nice spot and need something I'm not carrying, I could change my equipment at the hotel and re-venture out again with a different set of lenses. Just a thought.

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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2013, 02:40:49 PM »
All photography is prohibited in many larger churches such as St Paul's and Sacre Coeur out of respect to people during prayer

I don't know about Sacre Coeur, but the churches I entered in Paris a year ago - including Notre Dame, Madeleine, St Germain & St Sulpice - allowed cameras, but no flash and no tripods.  Have they changed their policies since then?  That would be a shame.

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2013, 02:52:58 PM »

Most everyone here agrees that 300mm is seldom used in these citys. So the 70-200 f/4L IS is the choice for me.


I would have thought that matters isn't whether lots of other people use 300mm in those cities but whether, given your style, you're likely to want to.  For all we know, 135mm might be long enough for you (or perhaps 300mm won't be long enough; there are engaging ducks etc. in St James's Park and elsewhere...).

If you have spare room in your bag, you may want to consider taking a back-up body (if you have one) rather than yet another lens.

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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 07:54:34 PM »
I personally wouldn't carry that much.  Mount the 50 on the camera and pocket the 24-105 and you'll have plenty.
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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2013, 12:17:02 AM »
I personally wouldn't carry that much.  Mount the 50 on the camera and pocket the 24-105 and you'll have plenty.
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2013, 12:30:20 AM »
I would take the 24-105 and 70-300L. They are both great lenses. And easy to carry around. Probably the 24-105 will stay on you camera most of the time in the cities. If you want to go light I would take a prime like the new 24 or 28 or even better 35 is. I recently did a 3 week tour in California carrying only the Fuji x100. I never missed a zoom. Now the Fuji is even better with the little s mark and could represent a solid alternative. Enjoy your trip first and foremost.
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Re: Euro Trip Lens selection.
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2013, 12:07:59 PM »
This is what I ended up bringing.

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