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EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« on: June 05, 2013, 03:35:35 PM »

Is the EF 24-105 f/4L IS Going Away?

The EF 24-70 f/4L IS will soon be kitted with the EOS 5D Mark III. I’m also hoping we’ll see it with the EOS 6D as well.


The release date for the new kit(s) is June 13, 2013.


As of writing this, we have no pricing. Expect to see some “white box” discounts on the EF 24-70 f/4L IS soon.


I haven’t heard anything in regards to the EF 24-105 f/4L IS getting discontinued, so I’d expect to see that lens in kits for some time to come.


EF 24-70 f/4L IS $1199


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EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« on: June 05, 2013, 03:35:35 PM »

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 03:44:27 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  It's more expensive than the 24-105, has less focal length range, and is comparable in optical quality.  Why?  Just why?   If you want noticeably better optical quality, then go for the 24-70 f2.8.  Otherwise, you're better off with the 24-105 for less money.

If you're right and Canon is going to discontinue the 24-105, then will they bring something to replace it or do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 03:47:31 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  ... do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?

Actually, I think you get the point of the 24-70mm f/4L IS lens (in conjunction with discontinuing the 24-105L) just perfectly...   ;)
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 04:14:39 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  ... do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?

Actually, I think you get the point of the 24-70mm f/4L IS lens (in conjunction with discontinuing the 24-105L) just perfectly...   ;)

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2013, 04:29:06 PM »
The 6D already comes with the 24-70 f/4L as a kit at Vistek in Canada:

http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/266307/canon-eos-6d-w-ef-2470mm-f40l-usm-kit.aspx
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2013, 04:34:24 PM »
The 6D already comes with the 24-70 f/4L as a kit at Vistek in Canada:

http://vistek.ca/store/DigitalSLRs/266307/canon-eos-6d-w-ef-2470mm-f40l-usm-kit.aspx

Good catch.  Henry's too.  It does appear to be a Canon kit, based on having a unique Canon item code.
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2013, 04:51:40 PM »
Pretty clever way to boost the price of the 5dIII kit back up...unfortunately for Canon, it just likely means fewer kit sales. Will be nice to see the 24-70 f/4 price plummet though, in case I ever go full-frame. It's a nice full-frame equivalent to something like the Sigma 17-70 macro combo.

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2013, 04:57:14 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  It's more expensive than the 24-105, has less focal length range, and is comparable in optical quality.  Why?  Just why?   If you want noticeably better optical quality, then go for the 24-70 f2.8.  Otherwise, you're better off with the 24-105 for less money.

If you're right and Canon is going to discontinue the 24-105, then will they bring something to replace it or do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?

     And I also think you hit the nail on the head.  The 24-105 is a fine lens to carry around that covers a nice range for many activities and casual snapping.  I added one over a year ago and find it often on my camera unless I know I have a particular need.  Typically the focal lengths I tend to shot at are the 35-42mm, and 85-95mm ranges.  (with it open to 24 a good amount of time also)   
     It is very convenient to not carry 2 or 3 lenses even though it seems I would be happy with the 35 and 100mm  primes most of the time.   I've rented the 24-70 f/2.8 II to try it out, lovely lens.  I just found myself wanting a little more at the long end fairly often, and the $$... geesh.   
     Faced with the discontinuance of the lens, I might opt for a non-canon 24-70, and think about the 100 macro also.   ( I already own the 70-200 f/4, and don't want the weight of the f/2.8 )
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2013, 04:57:29 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  It's more expensive than the 24-105, has less focal length range, and is comparable in optical quality.  Why?  Just why?   If you want noticeably better optical quality, then go for the 24-70 f2.8.  Otherwise, you're better off with the 24-105 for less money.

If you're right and Canon is going to discontinue the 24-105, then will they bring something to replace it or do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?


Because it is optically superior to the 24-105, in fact it's way ahead of even our very good copy of the 24-105.

Agreed at the present time it looks over priced against the longer zoom, but that lens has been around since 2005, and at the time of its introduction was the same higher price.

We got ours as an official kit in England, but our local professional dealer in Leeds, North of England seemed to be the only retailer offering it.

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 05:22:52 PM »
When I was at the Canon store in the Philippines last Sunday, they were selling the 6D kit with the 24-70 f/4.

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 05:24:41 PM »
Actually, I think you get the point of the 24-70mm f/4L IS lens (in conjunction with discontinuing the 24-105L) just perfectly...   ;)

Makes perfect business sense, the 24-70mm f4 IS when sold as the same kit camera will probably yield at least a similar or more probably better return over the 24-105mm kit, through improved material use, manufacturing processes, streamlined optic production and different less costly electronics and internal parts - perfect for the shareholders.  Makes even more sense when you consider many users will be more encouraged to buy a second longer reach lens, or even go for the recently patented 28-200mm lens as an all in one or even alternative kit option.  I can't see the 24-70 costing more to make than the now aging 24-105 (8 years is a long time for a kit lens - even if it is a L kit), Canon are simply just charging what they feel they can sell the lens for.
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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2013, 05:53:54 PM »
I still don't get the point of the 24-70 f4 lens.  It's more expensive than the 24-105, has less focal length range, and is comparable in optical quality.  Why?  Just why?   If you want noticeably better optical quality, then go for the 24-70 f2.8.  Otherwise, you're better off with the 24-105 for less money.

If you're right and Canon is going to discontinue the 24-105, then will they bring something to replace it or do they want to force users to a smaller focal length range so that users spend even more money to add a 70-200 version to make up for it?

I actually can't imagine any other reason why Canon is producing such a lens, but I can't believe they're gonna remove a 24-105 from their lineup. Maybe the 24-70/4 was just a "hiccup". It happens. But, most of all, who the hell and why bought the 24-70/4, seeing the 24-105 is still out!?!?

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2013, 05:57:48 PM »
You can buy the 6D 24-70 f/4L Kit over here in Switzerland for CHF3050.- ($3230)

https://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Bilder&Artikel=257606
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2013, 06:11:48 PM »
Hybrid IS, sharp MTF, small size, and close MFD/Macro mode make this a tempting lens if it gets down to a reasonable price point (for me it would be $850-$900).  Bonus points if it doesn't distort on the wide end.

Seems it would make an awesome club photography lens to mix flash and long exposure ambient, having the IS to be able to hold the background still for a while.

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Re: EOS 5D Mark III w/24-70 f/4L IS Kit Coming Soon
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2013, 06:12:02 PM »
I love my 24-105L, it's a great walk around lens, and gives me a lot of flexibility.  I'd really hate to be stuck at 70mm on the long side, especially since I bought a 6D.  I haven't used the 24-70, but can't imagine the image upgrade would be enough to make me want to give up 70-105 coverage and have to lug around a second lens.
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