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Re: EF-M 11-22 / 4-5.6 IS STM - officially announced
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2013, 04:33:11 PM »


Also, for those decrying IS on a wide-angle.  This is a godsend for those of us that dabble in video and aren't always able to use a tripod/afford-advanced-stabilization.  And who wouldn't want to to get some creamy waterfall shots without having to use a tripod? ;0

Em, that would be me then.

I shoot video professionally, and I always use a camera support of some description, these vary depending on the shoot circumstances, some of solutions are 'pricey' like a dedicated video tripod, some are simple and portable and inexpensive, like a monopod or superclamp, for run and gun the cvp sm-1 is proving a minor hit with me, although you'll need a camera with a flip out screen to make the most use of it, and this is very modestly priced.  I've always meant to buy a 'pod', you know the bean bag with the tripod screw, and these cost around £8.

IS looks great on the screen because the screen is small.  But it can induce sea sickness on a large screen as the frame drifts.  Support means supported movements as well as just anti-shake, and unsupported movements (as you get with IS) are often as amateurish looking as wobbly footage.

Each to their own, of course, I've detailed what works for me, and IS just doesn't.  Or at least, isn't worth the extra cash when I'm already supporting my kit in other ways (which don't always play nice with IS)

Broad church, horses for courses etc.

I’m a hobbyist videographer at best, but almost all of my video is taken during alpine climbing, so there is no real time to setup anything, nor does anyone want to carry more weight than necessary!  My partners already think I’m insane for using a DSLR instead of a point-and-shoot.  The 28mm f/2.8 IS allows me to hand-hold shots that look like they were on a monopod.

Maybe someday a climbing company will give me a Sherpa team to rig and carry some stabilization but..until then…IS please!

here is something I threw together from a recent trip: https://vimeo.com/68106828

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Re: EF-M 11-22 / 4-5.6 IS STM - officially announced
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2013, 04:33:11 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2013, 04:42:38 AM »
Do you use a walking pole?, the pods can be filled with anything.  Including snow.

IS is not for me.  I'm glad it's for you.

I'm right.  You're right.  Horses for Courses or Sherpas for helpers.

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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2013, 05:32:17 PM »
Do you use a walking pole?, the pods can be filled with anything.  Including snow.

IS is not for me.  I'm glad it's for you.

I'm right.  You're right.  Horses for Courses or Sherpas for helpers.

I do use a trekking pole!  But only for approaches!  Technical ice/rock sections are where I'm interested in getting footage the most usually.  Someone on vimeo told me to get one of these to help with steadiness, do you have any experience?

http://store.zacuto.com/target-shooter/


pods?  I'm not sure I know what  you're talking about, please elaborate?

I like that saying, I have never heard it before, where's it from?


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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2013, 08:16:28 PM »
A gopro might be a better solution.  Pretty much everything sharp, can be worn so stabilised to an extent...

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« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2013, 11:26:58 PM »
A gopro might be a better solution.  Pretty much everything sharp, can be worn so stabilised to an extent...

Not sure if I want to be known as a GoProBro  :o

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« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2013, 07:00:53 AM »
Behind all the razzamataz they are solid little cameras.  No exposure controls to fumble with, no extra supports to carry.  Good IQ.  Modestly priced.

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« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2013, 11:12:52 AM »
Behind all the razzamataz they are solid little cameras.  No exposure controls to fumble with, no extra supports to carry.  Good IQ.  Modestly priced.

Definitely going to try one out!  I'm going on an 8-day climbing trip to the Bugaboos, it will probably be very challenging to use a DSLR all the time as it's pretty much 100% technical rock-climbing.  A friend is going to let me borrow a GoPro, I'll probably try to integrate the footage in.

Do you have one?  Any GoPro tips in general?  Do you usually shoot at 60fps?  I'm thinking that would be great for slow-mo options, on the other hand I dont' want to be continually taking my helmet off to adjust settings!  Also, I'm thinking 60fps is going to hog a ton of SD space...what am I saying though, there is no way in hell it could be worse than RAW video!

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2013, 11:59:18 AM »
I'm in a PAL region, so I tend to use 25 or 50 fps, but the theory is largely the same.

I prefer to shoot 1080x1920 at 25p as this intercuts with my DSLR footage, I've yet to do a project entirely in GoPro as I'm not a surfer or skateboarder.

I have the original HD Hero and the HD Hero 2, and the frame rate is tied to the resolutions, so you only get 50fps (or 60 for you) in 720 mode, so the data rate kind of balances out.

The Hero2 has a ProTune mode which gives much higher data rates if you are happy juggling around with grading etc.  I think the latest top spec version offers 60fps at 1080, you would need to check the website though.


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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2013, 08:08:52 AM »
I use a GoPro Hero 3 Black Edition as a fourth camera for video shoots.

You can shoot at 60fps at 1080 and it amazes me how much footage you will get on a Class 10 (has to be C10 if using ProTune) 32G Micro SD card.  I use SanDisk Mobile Ultra UHS-I Micro SD SDHC 32GB which are insanely cheap.

In this, the drummer is being shot with the GoPro (1080P @ 25FPS).   Admittedly I have done a lot of noise reduction in post, but this was a stupidly dark gig.

http://youtu.be/rPvIGg5Q7P0?t=20s

Slowmo at 720p @ 120FPS is excellent but WVGA @240FPS is only worthwhile with great light and the right source material.   

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« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2013, 09:32:27 AM »
I read all the time GoPro but was hoping for an update on the 11-22 shipping date.. 
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« Reply #57 on: July 14, 2013, 02:26:38 AM »
Just got the e-mail from amazon.de that I will receive my 11-22 on Wednesday! Hurray!!!! Guess what, we have Robbie Williams tickets for Wednesday evening and on the ticket it says: "professional cameras not allowed". Perfect for my new little "m" looking as harmless as it gets... ;)
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« Reply #58 on: July 16, 2013, 05:17:03 AM »
Nice built and handling! The beauty was delivered this morning here in Vienna, Austria. Now let's get out...
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« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2013, 09:05:40 AM »
Nice built and handling! The beauty was delivered this morning here in Vienna, Austria. Now let's get out...

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