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LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: June 06, 2013, 04:54:00 PM »

From LensRentals.com

Roger over at LensRentals.com has taken some time to test a variety of Canon 400mm lenses, including the new EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x.


Roger’s initial take…

“I can’t say whether it’s worth the price or not, but I can certainly say it’s the sharpest zoom lens I’ve ever seen, with image quality rivaling the most expensive primes.”


He did note however, that the 200-400 is a bit shorter at the long end than the EF 400 f/2.8L IS II. They’ve come to the initial conclusion that it’s about 95% of the 400 2.8 primes focal length.


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LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: June 06, 2013, 04:54:00 PM »

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 04:58:56 PM »
Thanks for sharing this information.

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 05:21:27 PM »
Me want!  I can just sell my car and just bike to work, right?  (And take the kids to soccer practice, and get groceries, and......aw dang.)

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 05:27:12 PM »
As usual, performance increase is not proportional to price increase.  Its really difficult to get a significant performance increase.

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 05:28:48 PM »
Nice to see the data. I've been saying for years that the 400F5.6 is way sharper than the 100-400F5.6... Roger's test data certainly confirms that. I'm surprised at how close it is to the 400F2.8, I always knew it was a good lens.

That said, I still think a 400II lens with fluorite element and IS would be a fantastic update to the Canon lineup, even if it was in the $2500 range....
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 05:31:36 PM »
As usual, performance increase is not proportional to price increase.  Its really difficult to get a significant performance increase.

At the upper end of lens design you can probably expect more than doubling the price for a less than 10 percent increase...
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2013, 05:58:02 PM »
This new zoom lens sure is impressive. What is also impressive is how good the "old" 400 f/5.6 is, especially for the price, but then again, those of us who own it knew that already  ;)

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2013, 06:44:06 PM »
This is just one set of measurements under sub-optimal conditions. It is remarkable how the data on the 400mm f/5.6 conflict with Canon's own MTF charts and measurements by Photozone.de and SLRGear.

Here is a collage of Canon's MTF charts, The 200-400 is pretty remarkable, to say the least.
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 11:41:16 PM »
This is just one set of measurements under sub-optimal conditions. It is remarkable how the data on the 400mm f/5.6 conflict with Canon's own MTF charts and measurements by Photozone.de and SLRGear.


Yeah I always noted that the 400 f/5.6 MTF from Canon always looked solid but not amazing and yet over the years people have posted some sample shots, 100% crops, that looked pretty remarkably super-tele-like crisp.

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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 05:36:36 AM »
Well I didn't think that lens was going to get this rave review. I am glad I was wrong. Looks like another home run from Canon. These guys are on a roll big time. Best big glass in the world IMO. Although too big and heavy for me I am really waiting for the pics to start showing up. Great job Canon.
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 06:32:15 AM »
This is just one set of measurements under sub-optimal conditions. It is remarkable how the data on the 400mm f/5.6 conflict with Canon's own MTF charts and measurements by Photozone.de and SLRGear.


Yeah I always noted that the 400 f/5.6 MTF from Canon always looked solid but not amazing and yet over the years people have posted some sample shots, 100% crops, that looked pretty remarkably super-tele-like crisp.

It all depends on how much of the frame the subject fills. The big white prime superteles can get a sharp image from 700x700 pixels. I need about 1400x1400 pixels or more from the 100-400mm to get equivalent sharpness. If I then post a 100% crop at that level it can look stunning. But, I need to be at half the distance away that the 200-400 or the 400mm f/2.8 would have to be.
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 07:15:10 AM »
This is just one set of measurements under sub-optimal conditions. It is remarkable how the data on the 400mm f/5.6 conflict with Canon's own MTF charts and measurements by Photozone.de and SLRGear.

Here is a collage of Canon's MTF charts, The 200-400 is pretty remarkable, to say the least.

Looking at Roger's data compared to the Canon MTF curves for the 400 II vs the 200-400 @ 400mm, something doesn't add up - significant difference on Canon's MTF, no real difference in Roger's test...
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 03:15:26 PM »
The 200-400 is a nice lens no doubt, but for that kind of money, I'll continue saving my pennies for the 400 2.8.  With my 1.4 tc, I'll still be a stop faster.  The 200-400 is, I'm sure a great lens, but I don't quite see the value per dollar, if it was ~5-7K, I would have been among the 1st to order one....
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Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2013, 02:47:50 AM »
This is just one set of measurements under sub-optimal conditions. It is remarkable how the data on the 400mm f/5.6 conflict with Canon's own MTF charts and measurements by Photozone.de and SLRGear.

Here is a collage of Canon's MTF charts, The 200-400 is pretty remarkable, to say the least.

Wow, I just looked at the data a little closer. That is very strange! Not sure what to think now. No doubt a great lens but?
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