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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2013, 08:32:17 AM »
I don't have the EOS M  but

  * I would by it if it were available in Europe as a bundle with the ef-m 22mm lens for 400 Euro instantanously ...
  * ... and buy an FD-to-EOS-M adaptor to use my FD lenses for video ...
  * ... and replace my S95 as high portability cam ...
  * ... and use the EOS-M with the 22mm lens as wide angle in combination with e.g. the 100mm Macro on a 40D.

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2013, 10:35:58 AM »
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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2013, 11:08:47 AM »
I don't have the EOS M  but

  * I would by it if it were available in Europe as a bundle with the ef-m 22mm lens for 400 Euro instantanously ...
  * ... and buy an FD-to-EOS-M adaptor to use my FD lenses for video ...
  * ... and replace my S95 as high portability cam ...
  * ... and use the EOS-M with the 22mm lens as wide angle in combination with e.g. the 100mm Macro on a 40D.

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I bought my EOS-M bundle (EOS-M+22mm f/2+EOS-M adapater+16GB 45MB/s SDHC card) from DigitalRev for US$ 662 (Euro 505) with free shipping & no customs duty ... it arrived ahead of schedule in perfect order and works perfectly.
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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2013, 12:23:06 PM »
I spent almost $1,000 on it, camera, flash and all. I "HAVE" to love it. T_T

Don't get me wrong though, it's easier for me to bring to school instead of my 5D2 for when I have photography assignments. My only problem is that whenever I plug in a flash, it takes a decently long time even with the batteries fully charged for the flash to start working.

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2013, 12:26:20 PM »
Digital Rev?

Thank you for the tip (RienzPhotoz too)!

The problem is that I am not interested in the EF<>EF-M adaptor at the moment and digital rev shows 576 Euro at the moment. Perhaps this is the price which includes the german tax.

But without the adaptor @ 400-450 Euro it would be interesting - perhaps this bundle will show up sometimes. I bookmarked digitalrev.com now and will look there from time to time ...

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2013, 04:30:39 AM »
I bought my EOS M double-kit with a flash a couple of months ago, before the prices went down. I absolutely love everything about it. Slow focus....what slow focus? No problem here whatsoever. Not a DSLR performance, but fine for everything except highly dynamic scenes. With the upcoming firmware update, it'll be almost perfect. As far as picture quality goes, it is much better than my 550D. The colors are much nicer and punchier. The JPEG is also much better (even though I shoot RAW, I hardly change anything in DPP ... might as well start shooting JPEG only). The overall picture look is also much better than 550D. Gone are the blue shadows, pinkish skin tones, blue eyes turning gray on the photos, and dull colors in certain lighting conditions. Everything is much better now. The pictures look almost translucent in any light, very clear and detailed with beautiful colors. Ergonomically, it is perfect for me too, and I really like the overall design. There are some quirks in UI, but nothing major. I've used NEX-5N for a over a year and I've tried some M4/3 cameras. And to me, EOS M is absolutely the best camera of them all.

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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2013, 01:10:17 PM »
Not really serious about supermoon shooting, I just wanted to try out the EOS M and see how it handles such task.

70-200 F4L IS works quite well with the EOS M. AF reasonable fast, even with stock v1 firmware.
The shot step photo is here

http://vincent4wang.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/supermoon-day-2-by-eos-m/

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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2013, 01:55:43 PM »
Hi,

this is my first post here on the forum. I did only read since approximately one year. Finally I decided to register.

I´m also a fan of the EOS-M, especially since the prices dropped so dramatically. I just ordered a kit with the 18-55mm lens and the flash EX90. The flash will also be usefull for me as a master on my 5DII to control my 580EXII.
I´m looking forward to have this kit in my hands later this week. I think that I will also buy the other lens(es) and the EF-EOS-M adaptor later.

I was searching for a light and small travel camera during the last weeks. The main argument for the EOS-M was the price. For around 1000 bucks I get a nearly complete system, while a Fuji or OM-D will only be the body for the same amount of money.

Frank

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Thank you for the tip (RienzPhotoz too)!

The problem is that I am not interested in the EF<>EF-M adaptor at the moment and digital rev shows 576 Euro at the moment. Perhaps this is the price which includes the german tax.

But without the adaptor @ 400-450 Euro it would be interesting - perhaps this bundle will show up sometimes. I bookmarked digitalrev.com now and will look there from time to time ...

- Michael

Hi Michael,

why not buying a kit with 18-55 lens and flash for under 400€ and a 22mm lens seperately for 220€. You can sell the 18-55 and the flash and then you should be in the range of 400-450€ for your package.

Frank

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2013, 10:13:00 PM »
I am a little perplexed by some of the comments about the EOS M on this forum. I just read one comment describing it as a 'turkey', and a previous comment implied that AF with the V1.0.6 was unusable.  These kind of comments, apart from being wildly inaccurate, don't help anyone.

I am a long time SLR user, starting with a Canon A1 in 1982, then T90, and moving on to a 10D and 40D in the digital age.  I still have plans for a 5D III, but no longer wish to haul around a heavy bag of DSLR gear for general use.  For the last four years I've had an S90 clipped to my belt all the time and it has done a great job, however, the image quality isn't the greatest and I wanted better image quality to record my daughter growing up.

I bought an EOS M last week.  The prices have come down a lot recently, the sensor is better than in my 40D, it is very portable - especially with the EF-M 22mm, and it is extremely flexible and versatile.  It can accept all of my EF and EF-S lenses and if I wish I can use a large Speedlite or ST-E2.  I have just been on a short trip and had a chance to try it out in the field with the V1.0.6 firmware.  Here are my first impressions.

AF - not the fastest, but to imply it is unusable is ridiculous.  I upgraded to V2.0.2 a couple of days ago and there has been a big improvement.  I have yet to give the new version a thorough test, but it is looking promising.

No viewfinder - not a problem for me personally, but not ideal when using long telephotos.  The EOS M is touch screen driven and changing settings wouldn't be possible while looking through a finder.  The user interface is designed not to have a finder.  If it really bothers you, I guess you can buy another manufacturer's finder and clip it on the hotshoe.

Image quality - excellent.  I still love the IQ from my 40D, but this is better.

Battery life - not great.  The touch screen, IS lenses, and other functions all drain the battery.  On a full charge I managed just under 200 stills along with a few minutes of video.

Video - a big improvement over the S90.  Continuous AF with STM lenses and the largest video format fills my 1920x1080 monitor.  These improvements will encourage me to do more video.

I bought a kit with the EF-M 22mm STM, EF-M 18-55mm STM IS, and 90EX flash.  I bought the EF-M adapter separately.  Both EF-M lenses have impressed me.  The 18-55mm has a very useful focal length range and the IS is very effective - I handheld some shots at 1/8s and got good results.  It's always good to have a fast prime and the EF-M 22mm is also very small and light.

The adapter is a great advantage with this system for people who have invested in EF and EF-S lenses.  I haven't used all my lenses on the EOS M yet, but the EF 100mm f/2.8L works well, as does the EF 70-200 f/4L IS.  I have been shooting in JPG and the camera's built in lens correction capability does a great job with removing vignetting on the EF-S 10-22mm.

There is no built in flash, but the tiny 90EX adds some natural fill flash to backlit subjects and the camera handles all the exposure without me having to fiddle around.

All cameras are fun at first but I've had more fun with this one than most and I'm looking forward to using it a lot more.  Sadly, one of the reasons I delayed my buying decision was due to the misinformation on the Internet posted by people who apparently don't own the camera.

No single camera is suitable for every photographer in every situation, and the EOS M is no exception.  I don't shoot sports and only photograph birds occasionally.  I don't need blazing fast autofocus most of the time, and if I do I will take an SLR.  I used to miss many shots because my heavy SLR was at home.  The S90 fixed that problem.  The EOS M is almost as portable as the S90 (especially with just the EF-M 22mm lens) and it gives me APS-C DSLR image quality.

How many people actually like the EOS M?
I do.  A lot.

I've posted a few sample images and personal thoughts, and as I use the camera more I will add more to this page.

http://phil.uk.net/photography/canon_EOS_M.html

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2013, 07:02:26 AM »
Tyroop!  I agree with all you wrote. The m is a fanatsic add and complement to my 5DIII and 7D and I use it more and more. Now I am waiting for the ef-m 11-22 - my ef-s 10-22 is sold already and I got more mony than the ef-m will cost... happy user
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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2013, 07:40:31 AM »


...and if I wish I can use a large Speedlite or ST-E2...    ...Sadly, one of the reasons I delayed my buying decision was due to the misinformation on the Internet posted by people who apparently don't own the camera....



I also agree with everything you've said.  One thing I would add, just in case you didn't already know, the 90ex also works as a master unit in a wireless flash set up, and even 1DX and 5D3 users have been buying them for use with non-RT guns.  You might be able to sell that ST-E2 and ditch those 2cr5's!  You should try it with your 40D.

I also didn't recognise the performance of the M from the reviews.  In green square mode fw1 it was pretty bad, which is a shame as the target market (powershot upgraders) would probably try to gain their confidence in this mode at first.  For folk like us, used to the EOS system, used to menus, and with an awareness of how AF works - and sometimes doesn't!- then it was a matter of 30s in the menu to get it set up to AF a lot faster.

One thing I've found in fw2 is that the basic flexi-zone AF pattern is loads better, particularly if you press the delete icon during camera mode, this narrows the very wide af area to a large centre square made up of a grid of 3x3 AF points.  This mode works very very well for me so far.

I am glad folk knocked it, it made it cheap, and I think some dissenters are so entrenched that they'll never have their heads turned, for me the choice between using my collection of EF / EF-m lenses or buying into a new system just for pocket camera use was a no brainer.  With the 22mm it fits in my pocket, and I can use my exsisting lenses on other occasions (say to take advantage of the 29m59s video clip cap, even in 1080p25 mode!)

My stills are punchy and vibrant and noise lower than on my digic iv cameras.
 



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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2013, 07:45:21 AM »
I'm considering EOS-M with 22mm, I think it's fine for less than 500$. But in Europe is still quite expensive, more than 500Euro(650$). I'll probably wait M2 announcement for bargains here too.   

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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2013, 10:00:12 AM »
I like it.
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« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2013, 11:29:20 AM »

I've posted a few sample images and personal thoughts, and as I use the camera more I will add more to this page.

http://phil.uk.net/photography/canon_EOS_M.html

Thanks for a great post, very useful.

I also read through your "review," and I'd recommend it to anyone interested in this camera. Frankly, to me your review is worth 100 reviews from professional sites where they have to filter themselves through an advertising department. It's wonderful to find a well written piece by someone with long experience and good sense!

Hope you'll do as promised and keep us updated on your M experiences.
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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2013, 12:43:53 PM »
I used mine today for the first time (got it today  :D ) and used it as my wide angle second body to accompany my 5D2/135L for a kind of ceremonial sword forging thing in front of a shrine in the dark. The image is one from the EOS M. It came in handy, works really well in low light and was a lot easier to carry than my 7D! Result.
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Re: How many people actually like the EOS-M?
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