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A Big Megapixel Discussion
« on: June 11, 2013, 11:57:43 AM »

Development announcement before years end?

There has been a bit of discussion lately about the upcoming “big megapixel” camera body from Canon. The camera is slated for release some time in 2014. We’re told that there is a possibility that the camera will get a development announcement before the years end.


We’re told there is still discussion in regards to form factor of such a camera. There’s probably an even 50/50 split in preferences between an EOS-1Dx style body or a EOS 5D Mark III style body. I fall into the latter category, the smaller, the better for me. However, there are lots of people that love the ergonomics of the EOS-1D X. I guess it’s possible there could be a mix of both styles of body.


A different source says there are 3 different sensors currently in development, all of which are above the 35mp pixel count. Canon is apparently quite motivated to make industry leading sensors again, as we should see some of that in the EOS 7D Mark II and perhaps even the 70D in the summer.


The EOS-1D X is apparently slated for replacement in late 2014 or early 2015, and Canon would like to have a large megapixel camera on the market before that happens.


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A Big Megapixel Discussion
« on: June 11, 2013, 11:57:43 AM »

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 12:22:30 PM »
I am torn between 1D series and 5D series for the body.  I love the feel of the 1D but the cost could be close to $10,000.  With a 5D type body, hopefully the cost would be close to $3,500 (though more likely to be around $5,000).

Perhaps they will come up with both - unlikely but possible.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 12:26:41 PM »
I am torn between 1D series and 5D series for the body.  I love the feel of the 1D but the cost could be close to $10,000.  With a 5D type body, hopefully the cost would be close to $3,500 (though more likely to be around $5,000).

Perhaps they will come up with both - unlikely but possible.


I'd actually say it's very likely because there is demand for both.  The question is really how will the specs differentiate.  What features will go into the 1d style and what will be stripped from that for the 5d style.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 12:27:30 PM »
We’re told there is still discussion in regards to form factor of such a camera. There’s probably an even 50/50 split in preferences between an EOS-1Dx style body or a EOS 5D Mark III style body. I fall into the latter category, the smaller

Me too. Both for the big megapixel camera and for the 7D MkII.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 12:40:05 PM »
It's a flagship so I want all the features. But the same sensor will probably come in a re-vamped 5D later with lesser features...
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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 12:40:49 PM »
I'm satisfied with 22mp. Large enough to print big, Small enough to save some space.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 12:49:17 PM »
I'm satisfied with 22mp. Large enough to print big, Small enough to save some space.

Unfortunately the market place is in the driver's seat here and this camera is most likely geared for the landscape crowd.

You will have a nice 22MP camera or maybe slightly more when the 5DIV comes out.
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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 12:50:06 PM »
It's a flagship

Not necessarily. The 1D series will continue to be the flagship, I don't know how the big MP camera will be numbered, but most probably it won't be 1, IMO.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 01:04:17 PM »
It's a flagship so I want all the features. But the same sensor will probably come in a re-vamped 5D later with lesser features...

Perhaps  There are several ways to measure flagship - MP, S/N, FPS, high ISO, ...

No camera can do all. 

Question is positioning.  If they decide this is a landscape camera, then 5D form factor.  If they decide this is studio, run ways, .. then possibly 1D form factor.

Or will the 5DIV be 45 MP, 4-6 FPS and the 1Dx2 be 36 MP, 10 FPS - not sure that they could hit either FPS but this is only for illustration purposes.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 01:13:14 PM »
i really dont care about this at the moment, all i care is for the 60D and even more, the 7D successor, damn it canon!!
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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 01:18:57 PM »
It's a flagship

Not necessarily. The 1D series will continue to be the flagship, I don't know how the big MP camera will be numbered, but most probably it won't be 1, IMO.

I'm not sure what you are basing that on. This could very well be the 1D Xs.

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 01:50:40 PM »
Or will the 5DIV be 45 MP

That's one possibility, that the 5D Mk IV is going to be the big MP camera, and eventually a future 6D Mk II will gain a better AF and more FPS...

I'm not sure what you are basing that on. This could very well be the 1D Xs.

Speculation. It's fun. Sure, it could be called 1D Xs. But again, I don't think so, especially if it's going to be a non-integrated grip body, which is my preferred option. In the other case, why not? But unlikely. Remember Canon introduced the "X" to represent the merging (crossing) of the 1D and 1Ds lines, and now what? Splitting in two the 1 series again and keeping the X, though both FF?

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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 02:10:15 PM »
1Dexcess indeed ;)

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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 02:28:13 PM »
"Canon is apparently quite motivated to make industry leading sensors again"

Well I sure like the sound of that. I just hope that it is true.

As for the form factor. I'd really hope for 5D-sized (hopefully it wouldn't need a giant battery to drive 6fps, 7D2 manages dual-digic with a small battery although ti does have a small mirror). 39MP or so might be video friendly.

5D-sized, 39MP, 6fps, top quality video, superb low ISO DR, would be pretty awesome
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Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »
How about a 45+ mp camera with the ability to do a lossy compression RAW file... similar to Adobe's dng format with lossy compression.  I am sure that the Digic 5+ (or 6 when it is incorporated) can more than handle the workload of compressing the files.  And you should be able to get a filesize comparable to the current RAW files on the 21/22mp sensors.

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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 02:40:32 PM »