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So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 01:55:28 AM »
Boom!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/24/sony-unveils-nex-7-24-3-mp-sensor-oled-viewfinder-1199-price/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/24/sony-alpha-a77-hands-on-preview-video/
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1108/11082420sonyslta77preview.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1108/11082419sonynex7overview.asp

Both cameras look absolutely amazing for their price range. One thing to note is that the A77 has a 1.09x 100% EVF, and 12fps. This can only be good for all of us as the ante has just been upped!

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So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 01:55:28 AM »

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2011, 03:33:35 AM »
Way to go Sony :) Since I bought the FS100, I'm looking more and more at these guys. They have the potential to reclaim what they started in the dawn of time.

Will be interesting to see Canons response to this.

60p... and 12fps woot :P
« Last Edit: August 24, 2011, 03:37:23 AM by leGreve »
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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2011, 03:57:50 AM »
Boom!
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This can only be good for all of us as the ante has just been upped!

Yeah, either there will be something interesting from Canon to upgrade to, or I'll have to closely inspect Sony's offerings. They also released a 50mm f/1.8 with IS!

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2011, 04:22:17 AM »

Yeah, either there will be something interesting from Canon to upgrade to, or I'll have to closely inspect Sony's offerings. They also released a 50mm f/1.8 with IS!

one thing i don´t understand is people who always think about switching to a different brand when a new camera comes out.

i mean... you don´t have much from the canon system (bodys, lenses)?
if you have, do you really think about selling everything and buy into a new system?

i mean i sell everything from nikon, canon, leica to panasonic.
but personally im a canon shooter since my childhood days.

i often found cameras fom nikon very tempting.
but even as a owner of a  camera shop, who sells used stuff too, i never thought about switching to nikon.

and why should i? or why should a nikon user switch to canon when he has build a decent nikon system?

for a few month nikon may has a better camera... then canon comes out with a better camera and takes the lead for a few month... then the games repeats itself.

i have my camera system to make photos not to mastrubate over my gear.
but i guess in internet forums like this the real photographer are a minority.
gear heads seem to rule the internet forums.
people who are more busy selling and buying cameras then making pictures.

and now a word to sony DSLR cameras...
ok i sell them but i don´t recommend them.

sony cameras have some issues and sony is not very eager to fix them.
instead you can buy new cameras. but don´t expect sony to be very helpful after you bought a product.

the canon support alone is worth more to me then any new feature in the new sony a77.   
« Last Edit: August 24, 2011, 04:26:21 AM by Gothmoth »

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2011, 05:22:45 AM »
everyone seems to announcing and about to announce.. like the look of the nex7... very nice...

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2011, 05:46:46 AM »
Wow, too bad this system has only a handful of overpriced lenses and ultra-overpriced Zeiss lenses :P. Congrats to Sony for breaking the 7D's low ISO noise levels...  :o Lulz.
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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 05:48:47 AM »
next is a nex9 full frame with a couple pancake primes at a third of the price of a m9?!

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2011, 05:48:47 AM »

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2011, 06:09:28 AM »
one thing i don´t understand is people who always think about switching to a different brand when a new camera comes out.

i mean... you don´t have much from the canon system (bodys, lenses)?

no, I don't: I purposedly try to be as vendor-agnostic as I can

for example, this is my lens set: 18-55 kit lens, 35mm, 50mm, 90mm, 135mm, 180mm, 300mm
all those primes are leitz vintage lenses for the leica-R mount, and they will work on canon, nikon, sony alpha, sony nex, m43, you name it (except the 50mm which is M42 and doesn't work on nikon, and maybe sony alpha)

so I just have to sell a body with kit lens, battery grip, and two extra batteries, and burn $150 on a new set of lens mount adaptors

(you'll notice I'm lacking on the wide end of things; that's precisely because I didn't want to buy the tokina 11-16 and be stuck with a specific lens mount, so I'm delaying that purchase as much as I can, and it's looking like that strategy will pay off)

next: Nikon and Canon, bring out your best shots or be damned!!



edit: oh, and now that I'm at it...

there’s a bunch of very detailed previews at dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonyslta77/
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonyslta65/
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sonynex5n/

* the PAL versions don’t have 60p, 30p or 24p, just 50p and 25p
* the NTSC versions don’t have 25p or 30p, but 24p at 24 Mbps should look great
* the tilt screen seems more limited than the one in the canons (doesn't seem like it can be located on the left side of the camera?)

and also, this is a great EOSHD post on which lenses can work on an alpha mount; very useful:
http://www.eoshd.com/content/3661/do-your-lenses-adapt-to-the-sony-a77-a-mount
« Last Edit: August 24, 2011, 06:22:11 AM by NormanBates »

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2011, 08:05:47 AM »
Exciting!
Really fascinating times are here already, thanks Sony... Can't wait for the market response, if only there will be some super wide angle lenses in reasonable sizes available for those.

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2011, 08:22:40 AM »
smokes! get your game on canon thats insane

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 09:17:29 AM »
Exciting!
Really fascinating times are here already, thanks Sony... Can't wait for the market response, if only there will be some super wide angle lenses in reasonable sizes available for those.

I guess you're talking about the nex ones, and don't want to use an adapter
if not, the tokina 11-16 f/2.8 is made with a sony alpha mount!
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/687279-REG/Tokina_ATX116PRODXS_11_16mm_f_2_8_AT_X_116.html

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 09:50:58 AM »
I'm glad that Sony is kicking butt. This will force Canon to do something or be left behind. I think it's strange how so many Canon users on this forum get all bent out of shape when other companies like Sony are praised for raising the bar.

Don't you realize, this is a good? Most people who are vested in a system (like myself) cannot just jump ship, but it's nice that there are better cameras being made now (especially video) and the option for a future jump is there.

For me, jumping ship is not really an option since I'm vested in Canon gear. BUT, what Canon does have to worry about are the new photographers who are un-vested in a system yet. At this point of the game, if a new photographer is deciding between the aged 7D or the new Sony, I would say that Sony can look very, very appealing.

Sony is out for blood, and in the end we all win, regardless of whether you jump ship or stay with Canon.
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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 10:13:34 AM »
Definitly nice specs for the Camera. It will be interesting to have on in my hands to try out. But switch to Sony? Why switch at all? Canon and Nikon will respond with similar specs. So I hope in 1 - 1 1/2 years when I plan to replace my EOS 350D, Canon will have something nice in this range (a EOS 70D).

But up until then I(not my camera) will take some nice pictures with my trusty old EOS 350D (which has some nice glas attached to it)

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Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2011, 10:14:49 AM »
Megapixel war is not over yet, next canon with 30MP APS-C sensor ??? :o

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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 10:27:22 AM »
LOL this camera is a perfect "consumer bait"... 3D video and still modes - YAY! Now you can compete with LG tablets both in features and image quality!

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