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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2013, 07:07:33 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2013, 07:21:35 PM »
With a FF kit, this would be a tempting upgrade path from the 70-300L to get a bit more reach...

I'd say that will depend on the physical specs of the new 100-400L.  While I'd appreciate a step up in IQ and IS, I find that the current 100-400L delivers excellent images.  But I'm still considering (and will likely purchase soon) the 70-300L as a travel lens. 
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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2013, 08:03:59 PM »

Pentax, for example, offers more for your dollar but if you want to use a high end tilt-shift lens or an elaborate Speedlite system Pentax may not be the best choice.


Whether Pentax offers "more for your dollar" rather depends on what you want.  If you care about accurate, really fast and quiet focusing, or a good selection of long zooms, for instance, they give you less.  Weather sealing (not many of their lenses are), great ergonomics and a superb sensor (I used to own a K-5; I gather its successor is even better) are all very well, but....

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2013, 08:31:56 PM »
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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2013, 08:53:07 PM »
With a FF kit, this would be a tempting upgrade path from the 70-300L to get a bit more reach...

I'd say that will depend on the physical specs of the new 100-400L.  While I'd appreciate a step up in IQ and IS, I find that the current 100-400L delivers excellent images.  But I'm still considering (and will likely purchase soon) the 70-300L as a travel lens.

Regarding 70-300 I will be  interested in your opinion when/if you get it. I already have two 70-200 lenses  (70-200 2.8L IS II and 70-200 4L IS) I intend to keep. A third one in the same more or less focal range would be too much.The f/4  is an excellent travel lens. Light and sharp. In addition I do not like the reverse use of zooming and focusing rings in 70-300 ...

On the positive side I would not have to bring my 300 4L and there are bags that you can put the 70-300 lens vertically - but not the 70-200 f4 - and save a lot of space!!!

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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 09:32:22 PM »
I was under the impression that the new 100-400 was to have a max ap @ 4, not 4.5. I know this is picking nits, but with such an increase in price, I want all I can get. Obviously IQ will be the ultimate determining factor (other than price) on whether I upgrade or keep my current beloved copy.
Even if it has a max f/4 @ 100mm, it'll still be f/5.6 in the range where most of us use it most of the time!
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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 10:03:29 PM »
Both of the current 70-300 lenses are f/4-5.6:
70-300 f/4-5.6 IS USM
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Why then would they want to build a f/4.5-5.6 70-300?

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 11:14:01 PM »
With a FF kit, this would be a tempting upgrade path from the 70-300L to get a bit more reach...

I'd say that will depend on the physical specs of the new 100-400L.  While I'd appreciate a step up in IQ and IS, I find that the current 100-400L delivers excellent images.  But I'm still considering (and will likely purchase soon) the 70-300L as a travel lens.

Regarding 70-300 I will be  interested in your opinion when/if you get it. I already have two 70-200 lenses  (70-200 2.8L IS II and 70-200 4L IS) I intend to keep. A third one in the same more or less focal range would be too much.The f/4  is an excellent travel lens. Light and sharp. In addition I do not like the reverse use of zooming and focusing rings in 70-300 ...

On the positive side I would not have to bring my 300 4L and there are bags that you can put the 70-300 lens vertically - but not the 70-200 f4 - and save a lot of space!!!

Choices...

I'm guessing that if you were to get the 70-300L, then the 70-200 f/4 IS would be the odd lens out.  The 70-300L really does offer very good IQ in a light and compact package.  I can use my smallest camera bag (Velocity 7) and barely shove the 70-300L mounted to the camera and another lens on the side.  You'd lose a fraction of a stop to the f/4, but if you needed shallower DOF or more light-gathering ability, you'd be using the 70-200L II anyway.

If the 100-400 is as good as Canon's recent new offerings, then it should be markedly better than the 70-200L II + 2x III.  Hopefully, it'll take extenders well and give us good IQ at 560mm, which is about as far as we can get with a mobile hand-holdable system.  I'm also guessing that it'll weigh slightly more than the current lens' weight (more elements) and nearly weigh 4 lb (with hood and collar) and close to the current lens' length of 8 and 11 (extended) inches.  If it is, then there is still a place for the 70-300L.  The 70-300L will never be as popular as the 70-200 (ultimate short telephoto) or 100-400 (ultimate mobile reach) but it is an excellent travel lens.  If the 100-400 II is as good as the 24-70 II and the 70-200 II, then I'll probably end up with that one down the road too (currently 70-200 II and 70-300L).  Now, if the 100-400 II weighs less than 3 lb and is closer to 6 inches in length, then it'll make the 70-300L expendable.

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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2013, 11:17:07 PM »
WHO are you referring to? Was afraid i was going to have to reincarnate also. Just a 10 day ban, mostly deserved IMO. Or is it to WHOm are you referring?
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 11:50:14 PM »
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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 11:53:30 PM »
Maybe make the 70-300L F4?? Well I can wish can't?
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 12:04:18 AM »
If you can't follow the threads there's always the Holga Rumors forum


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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 03:14:03 AM »
Last time I checked, 2500 isn't double 1500.

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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 05:21:43 AM »
Looking forward to the 100-400 and will have an hard time beating the already good 100-400 in terms of value for money and image quality for the $$/££.    Expect that the USM will be top notch and new improved, improved 4 Stop IS at least and possibly trump card over Nikon "New Cannon Hybrid IS system compensates for both angle camera shake and shift camera shake".     Should be improved Optics with modern glass elements and construction; hopefully price will be nearer to the Sony MK 2 version of 70-400 lens around £1600 / $1900 rather than Nikon's price of £2500 / $2900.

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Re: Patent: EF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 07:14:46 AM »
If the 100-400 is as good as Canon's recent new offerings, then it should be markedly better than the 70-200L II + 2x III.  Hopefully, it'll take extenders well and give us good IQ at 560mm, which is about as far as we can get with a mobile hand-holdable system.

Hopefully, it'll take them at all.  Lots of people are clamoring for a rotating zoom like the 70-300L.  What if that plus a compact design means the lens loses extender compatibility??  Why would they do that?  Consider...all along the 'barrier' was 400/420mm.  If you wanted longer and still wanted AF, you shelled out the big bucks for a 1-series body or a supertele.  So now that they've put f/8 AF in a 5-series, perhaps they'll take away a 'cheap' 560mm f/8 IS option with good IQ.  Not really trying to be the voice of doom, here, but we all know that Canon giveth and Canon taketh away (AFMA on the 60D, anyone?).
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