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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 09:31:39 AM »
Not to overstate previous comments, but clearly white balance and exposure could use some refinement on these examples.  The mkiii pics really look good exposed to the right.  Think like a chef and consider background and presentation of the food.  In the photos you posted, a bold colored plate and/or a tastefully patterned and colorful table cloth and maybe some other props would do wonders.  Use a color wheel if you are not sure what colors would complement the colors in the food.  Think in terms of the shapes in your photos.  The photo on the stove could present the circular burners and circular dish less apologetically (I don't know how to say that less artsy, sorry) Also, I think you need to stop down.  Depth of field decreases significantly when you shoot close and that lens really sharpens up at smaller apertures.  Best of luck.
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 09:31:39 AM »

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 10:12:12 AM »
I really envy people who have enough money to afford such nice things.  :)  Sadly, it just doesn't translate to good photography automatically.  It's mostly dependent on your experience and your creativity.  Some people (like me) doesn't possess that much creativity but still I believe one can train the eye.  Just view photographs of those good creative photographer, not just those with the best equipment and surely your photography bit by bit will improve.  Learning some post-processing will also greatly improve your pictures even if you don't have the best equipment.  For me I still value good lens and good light more than the camera body.  Just some samples from my old 500D and 50mm F1.8.  Keep shooting even when they say you're not good at it.  That's the nuisance of "learning".

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 10:33:12 AM »


Really like this one!

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 01:12:45 PM »


Really like this one!


+1. Beautiful light and nice expression from the child's face.  :)

  Keep shooting even when they say you're not good at it.  That's the nuisance of "learning".


Well said. This is indeed the reality of learning but the self-fulfillment is very rewarding once you have achieved what you had hoped for.  ;)
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 03:44:51 PM »
In the digital age, many things that were in the analogue area a thing to think of BEFORE pressing the shutter can now be done in post production. But for these things, post production is actually required ;)

So, i would like to advice you to shoot in RAW and then "develop" the images in DPP, Lightroom, Photoshop, Aperture. Best would be aperture or lightroom, followed by photoshop and if you have nothing of these at hand, DPP came with your camera, works, but is quite unfriendly to anything like "workflow" ;)

With these tools, you can apply white balance after pressing the button, and you can also tune the colors to have that "pop".

After 1000 images, you know which button does what.
After 5000 images, you get "that feeling" what might work.
After 10'000 images, you know the limits/merits of your gear.
After 20'000 images, your equipment has become a tool to help you capture your vision.

I'm hitting 20'000 soon and have not yet mastered all my gear, as i invested in too many lenses ;)

So you must see this single lens as a challenge, not as a limitation!
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2013, 03:48:51 PM »
So you must see this single lens as a challenge, not as a limitation!

Well said.  :)

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 04:11:12 PM »
Lighting can make or break you.  I was having a grand time at the Big Ten track meet, bright sunny day, then suddenly a big cold front moved in and it started misting/raining and got really dark.  Even with a 1Dx and 70-200 f/2.8L II IS lens and seemingly "correct" exposure, I got this really bad photo:

P.S.  The more you understand lighting and WB, the better off you'll be. 

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2013, 04:11:12 PM »

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2013, 05:54:09 PM »
You bought a £2,300 camera and put a £80 on it?

Keep saving for an L lens and you'll see a big difference.

If he had taken the same photos with a 50L or 24-70 LII, what are the "big differences" we would see?  There's nothing wrong with these photos that a "better" lens would fix.

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2013, 06:21:38 PM »
Food photography is one of the more difficult things to master.  Do some online research and learn the techniques of food photography masters.  Your lens is fine.
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2013, 06:53:10 PM »
get some good raw processing software life Adobe Lightroom. Then spend a lot of time learning how to extract the best from your images.

5d3 + 50 1.8 can get some great results. just don't expect the world from either auto jpeg, or unprocessed RAW.

Ultimately though. shoot, shoot. shoot. You can only ever learn from mistakes
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2013, 07:22:58 PM »
In addition to everything said: this lens does render a bit muted colors (but not as much as to ruin your shot) and it is soft wide open.

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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2013, 08:23:01 PM »
Thank everyone for your great tips. I kind of figured that lighting is paramount to capture great photos. I just thought that the high ISO boost would be able to aid me but I guess not.

Also, I am of course using post, those photos didnt come straight out of the camera nor do I expect perfect pictures even if I shoot RAW.

I don't know why, but the best pictures right now are the ones I take outside, and that are close ups. Taking landscape pictures, they become really unattractive (don't know how exactly to describe it), but perhaps it's because this is a portrait lens?




I had a Canon 7D for 30 days but I returned it so I could buy the 5D Mark III (I wanted full frame), and I think it took better food pictures indoors (and I thought 5D couldnt be worse than 7D):


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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2013, 09:21:13 PM »
Getting the color right on indoor shots is not as easy as it sounds. It helps to throw something white (like a sheet of paper, or even better, a colour balancing card) into the picture, shoot it, and then take the picture again without it... Use the test shot and your RAW file to figure out what the color balance should be, and then use the same settings on the second shot.
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2013, 04:35:42 AM »
well, the 50mm on fullframe is that a good starter as it has approximately the same field of view than the human eye.
An image begins in the head, by just looking at things with your plain eyes (not throuh the viewfinder). When you see something, imagine what the photography of it should look like, and if it might work, take out the camera and try to get exactly what you imagined.
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Re: 5D Mk III with 50mm f/1.8 II - bad images?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2013, 04:35:42 AM »