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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 04:26:28 PM »
A 16-50 4L would be great for my video shootings :)

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2013, 04:26:28 PM »

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2013, 04:27:58 PM »
16-50mm ?  That leaves an interesting concept in my mind of a 50-135mm F4 IS - creating a crop centric focal range that migrates to full frame when the user wants too...
Or how about a 24-50mm f/2?
That's what the Sigma 18-35 F/1.8 zoom should have been.  I want that.
I forgot about this Sigma! Alas, I'm on a full-frame.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2013, 05:06:57 PM »

24 II corners are pretty much like the 24-70 II and much better than on the 24-105 or 24 2.8 non-IS. Of course a 24 2.8 II non-IS could cost a lot less than the 24 1.4 II and weigh less and be even better.

I wonder how the 24 2.8 IS performs.


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Do the mouseover and watch the arrow to show what is being shown at the time.  I've compared to the gold standard 24mm T/S II, starting at F/8 but you can change that as you need to.  I think the new 24 IS solid in the center but leaves something to be desired in the corners.  The T/S really seems to excel there.

Alternatively, PhotoZone has data on the 24mm T/S II and the 28mm IS F/2.8:

Tilt-Shift:  http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/603-canon24f35tse2?start=2
28mm IS: http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/774-canon28f28isff?start=1

And as you can see, the 28 is not too shabby.  I do love it, but I just wish it had a WS gasket.

-100 to everyone who said to lock the 24-70 on 24.  :P  I know it's sharp, but it's also big and heavy.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2013, 05:12:15 PM »
I would like to see Canon license its AF, .. technology to zeiss so that they can make their (Zeiss) lenses work in the fully automated mode with Canon bodies.  If Sigma, etc can make lenses that work with Canon bodies, why can't Zeiss?  Licensing issue or something else?

Sigma and Tamron reverse engineer the AF code to make their lenses work. That is why older sigma lenses won't work very well on new bodies.

Nissin on the other hand licence the flash instructions off Canon so I'm sure they'd be amenable to licencing their AF tech but it'd mean Sigma and Tamrons would be more expensive.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2013, 06:12:51 PM »
This is great news.  I've been patiently waiting to add an ultra wide angle to my FF lens collection!
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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2013, 06:15:22 PM »
The 16-50 F4L IS sounds REALLY intriguing, lets hope it's around 1k and I'll buy it. :)

No way - the 17-40L already is €600 after years and years on the market, a wider version (ad $$$) plus larger zoom range (add $$$) plus better iq (add much more $$$) will result in a hefty price tag - and Canon will sell it, because a really good 14-24 will be even more expensive.

For me, this is good news because I'm very happy I bough my 17-40L at a really reasonable price for a sealed L lens, it's sturdy and has good for what I do with it :-)

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2013, 06:17:26 PM »
Most exciting lens will be that 14-24mm F2.8L, been looking for it way too long now! 8)
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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2013, 06:17:26 PM »

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2013, 06:23:53 PM »
The other will be a replacement to both the 16-35 f/2.8L II and the 17-40 f/4L. We’re told one of the configurations in test is an EF 16-50 f/4L IS.

This lens is sorely needed but only so long as it fixes the problems of the existing lenses - soft corners, high field curvature at the wide end.

If it doesn't fix both of those then it may as well not exist.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2013, 06:25:38 PM »
The 16-50 F4L IS sounds REALLY intriguing, lets hope it's around 1k and I'll buy it. :)

+1

+1. I hope that going to 50mm would not compromise the UWA performance too much.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2013, 06:44:09 PM »
16-50mm is an interesting focal range.  It would only leave a 20mm gap between it and the 70-300L and 70-200L's.  It could conceivably replace my good but not stellar preforming 17-40mm and 24-105mm L's, leaving only a small gap to the 70-300mm L. 

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2013, 06:46:42 PM »
Most welcome rumor I've seen in a while. I'm glad I've held off on buying an ultra wide. If the 14-28 turns out to be true and as good optically as the other recently issued f2.8 zooms, then I know what's going on my wish list. Only decision left will be whether to buy the ultra wide angle before or after I get Canon's 100L macro. If only all decisions  were so nice.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2013, 06:48:58 PM »
Good to hear about this.  I've currently got a 17-40, and was debating whether or not to get a 16-35.  I guess this solves the debate...

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2013, 06:58:47 PM »
Thoughts:

16-50 F/4 IS is an intriguing concept.  A good percentage of us prefer a wider walkaround than 24-70.  I certainly use the 24-50 side of my 24-70 more than the 50-70.  I hope this one gets the smaller/lighter L treatment that we just saw with the currently demonized (but still an interesting design) 24-70 F/4 IS.

The 14-24 has massive shoes to fill.  I am not starting a dynamic range / low ISO / Nikon D800 conversation, but landscape work has been one of the perceived chinks in the armor of Canon's armamentarium.   Something that punches its weight against Nikon's seemingly legendary 14-24, possibly coupled with a high MP sensor, would be two huge steps towards correcting that perception.

For those not visible to the performance of Nikon's homerun hitter, it pulls in resolution figures right up there with the Canon 70-200 F/2.8 IS II.  Landscape filter companies make products specifically to work around this lens' huge front element.  Canon guys use adapters to mount this on their bodies.  It's that amazing, apparently. 

I still don't understand why we don't have a breathtakingly sharp autofocusing prime for landscape work.  I am drowning in a sea of ultrawide zooms (soft in corners), arty huge aperture L lenses (ditto), tilt-shift (no AF), and Zeiss glass (no AF).  I appreciate landscapes ==> tripods ==> liveview ==> no need for AF, but some folks just want to snap a picture of a coastline or a mountain range without all that fanfare.  I'd pay $1-2K for a breathtakingly sharp autofocusing 24mm L that didn't shoot itself in the foot (i.e. corners) to offer side a wide aperture.  Negative points if you tell me to just buy the 24-70 II.   :P

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I don't agree that canon has massive shoes to fill in the landscape department.  If you are already on a tripod and doing serious landscape work than I'd put the 17 TSE against the Nikon 14-24 anyday.

Sensors are another matter of course.

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2013, 06:58:47 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2013, 07:18:01 PM »

I don't agree that canon has massive shoes to fill in the landscape department.  If you are already on a tripod and doing serious landscape work than I'd put the 17 TSE against the Nikon 14-24 anyday.

Sensors are another matter of course.

Some people just like the versatility of a zoom especially in the ultra wide angle range. It doesn't hurt to even bring/have both a 14-24mm and 17mm tse as I do plan to keep my 17mm tse and pair it with a 14-24 type of lens. It doesn't hurt having a wider lens too to get a single wide shot without having to shift multiple images that results in a more narrow pano shot nor does it hurt also carrying around the 17mm for perspective correction. Additionally, in the event of wind/dust/dirt/rain environments I'd probably slap the 14-24 on over shifting/tilting with the 17mm as well.

In any case, my money is ready for this lens!

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Re: New Wide Angles Lenses in 2013 [CR2]
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2013, 07:23:11 PM »
No! Is it ... is it finally happening? The elusive 14-24? I just can't believe it! I don't even want this lens but I want to see Canon make it.

This rumor has already made my day!

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« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2013, 07:23:11 PM »