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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2013, 08:17:52 PM »
Thanks a lot, i need info just to get start with something.
I recently acquired 430ex for my 6D.

I will keep your tips in mind:
Bounce as possible, (creating bigger source of light)
ambient light still better,
catch light to subject's eye also is flattering (but i havent seen how pretty it can be)

off camera is a different story. =D
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2013, 08:23:16 PM »
   if there aren't any walls, I'll  bounce from below.

Careful bouncing from below. It may not be the most flattering light.

+1. Bouncing from below seems like lighting from horror movies.  :)

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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2013, 08:30:40 PM »
I'll bounce..  trying to hit the side wall where most of the light will flow directly onto them.   if there isn't a side wall,  I'll bounce from above.   if there aren't any walls, I'll  bounce from below.

I'm not sure if I misunderstood you. But did you mean pointing the flash to the ground?  No flash lets you point down that far unless you use a cord or wireless trigger.  More importantly you'll create a ghostly look if light comes from below instead of above.

I believe what he's trying to say is bounce as much as possible.


I see. I took it too literal then. How foolish am I.

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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2013, 08:33:17 PM »
Thanks a lot, i need info just to get start with something.
I recently acquired 430ex for my 6D.

I will keep your tips in mind:
Bounce as possible, (creating bigger source of light)
ambient light still better,
catch light to subject's eye also is flattering (but i havent seen how pretty it can be)

off camera is a different story. =D

Eyes without catchlight look like the person is demon possessed. There's no life in the person. It makes a huge difference especially when you're doing a head shot.
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2013, 08:52:27 PM »
I'll bounce..  trying to hit the side wall where most of the light will flow directly onto them.   if there isn't a side wall,  I'll bounce from above.   if there aren't any walls, I'll  bounce from below.

I'm not sure if I misunderstood you. But did you mean pointing the flash to the ground?  No flash lets you point down that far unless you use a cord or wireless trigger.  More importantly you'll create a ghostly look if light comes from below instead of above.

I tried to respond earlier, but my phone was acting screwy.

No... I bounce from the ground.  Turn your camera 90 degrees and then adjust the speedlite to bounce midway between you and your subject. 

It was Halloween, so it did give a bit of a different look to the photos, but it worked considering the holiday.
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2013, 09:00:01 PM »
It was basically dark, so the focus is a little off, but I did like the outcome.  Kids, all of which aren't mine which explains the black box, are lower to the ground, so shooting adults might be more of a challenge... and I tried to shoot off of a somewhat reflective surfaces like cement driveways...
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2013, 09:20:48 PM »
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2013, 01:52:44 AM »
Don't forget to gel your flash to match the ambient light if you're mixing flash. I always keep a 1/4, 1/2 and full CTO precut gel in a little plastic bag inside the speedlite case at all times. For more serious stuff I use the Honl gels filter set and speed strap.
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Re: On Camera Flash: Direct or Bounce, candid.
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