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JBeckwith

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A wise lens upgrade?
« on: June 20, 2013, 10:26:43 PM »
My current lens lineup only consists of the 24-105 f/4L and 50 1.8.

I have an offer on the table to sell my 24-105 for about $720.  I love this lens but I have been looking to go a little wider for landscapes and also a little longer for portrait work.  With Canon's current refurbished pricing I could get both the 17-40 f/4L and 70-200 (non-IS) f/4L for about $900.

This means I would achieve all my goals of having a wider lens, longer lens, and I would still have the 50 to fill the difference all for only about $200 out of pocket.  I am curious if anybody has enough experience with any of these lenses to confirm that it would be a worthwhile deal for me or if I should hang onto the 24-105 and stick with my current setup.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 10:41:05 PM »
Only issue I see for you is you lose IS completely I don't know how important you have considered IS but that might be something to think about. You picked good lenses though, I've used all the lenses you mentioned. I loved my 70-200 F4 non IS. Honestly I'm in the same boat as you. I want a wider lens as I have a 24-105 and a 50mm. I wouldn't mind selling the 24-105 considering how little I use it after I got the pancake lens for my 5D. Maybe I should sell my 24-105.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 11:40:06 PM »
I agree with kennephoto, you will miss IS at the long end!

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 08:14:38 PM »
I agree with kennephoto, you will miss IS at the long end!
Yeah I hadn't really thought about that.  I was more thinking range and image quality.  From The digital picture it looks like the 70-200 f/4 (non-IS) has better IQ than any of the other 70-200 versions except the 2.8 II. 
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 09:26:53 PM »
I agree with kennephoto, you will miss IS at the long end!
Yeah I hadn't really thought about that.  I was more thinking range and image quality.  From The digital picture it looks like the 70-200 f/4 (non-IS) has better IQ than any of the other 70-200 versions except the 2.8 II.

I'd look again.  The ranking is f/2.8 IS II > f/4 IS > f/2.8 non-IS > f/4 non-IS = f/2.8 IS.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 09:39:09 PM »
  From The digital picture it looks like the 70-200 f/4 (non-IS) has better IQ than any of the other 70-200 versions except the 2.8 II.
You misread something.  The f/4 non IS is good for the price, but is way down on the list. 
 
I really preferred my 24-105mmL to my 17-40mmL, there is a reason for its low cost, it needs to be stopped down considerably for best results.
 
Still, if you want ultra wide, the list is limited, and the 24-105L is already weak at 24mm.
 
I found a low cost used 17mm prime from Tokina that I like a lot, its f/3.5 and built like a tank. They are no longer made.
 
Get the 70-200mm f/4 IS if you can swing it.

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 09:43:58 PM »
Have you considered that you would switch between these two lenses probably often?

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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2013, 10:14:40 AM »
After thinking it over and considering all of your advice I think I am going to go with just the 70-200 f/4 IS.  It's about the price of both the 17-40 and 70-200 f/4 non IS combined, but I think it will be worth it.

I have always considered myself a WA shooter but when I really go back and look through the pictures, yeah I take a lot from 24-70mm, but almost all of the keepers are beyond 70mm.  I think this will give me the best bang for my buck.

The refurbished version is currently out of stock but they said they will give me a call when it is available.  I've never had a company do that so I think that's pretty cool.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2013, 10:23:47 AM »
Perhaps consider also the 70-300L. It is a very capable lens at same price as the 70-200 F4 IS. I really enjoy that lens. Only downside is it doesn't take canon brand extenders except the 1.4 at very longest focal length. But then if I need longer than 300 I just pop it on my 60D and I get 480. Enjoy choosing.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2013, 04:15:40 PM »
I'd second the 70-300L, it's my favourite lens


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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2013, 06:32:37 PM »
I'm going to respectfully disagree with others about the 70-200 f/4.  It is a great portrait lens. Will you wish you had IS and an f/2.8?  Perhaps, but you need to consider your upper price limit.  Both of those lenses at $900 refurbished is a great deal. What's more, that 70-200 f/4 L also makes a fantastic landscape lens.  You'll know what I mean once you start using it for that purpose.
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2013, 12:49:34 PM »
I've shot with a 17-40 and 70-200 f/4L IS combo and it works really well. I've never used the non IS version but am sure the IQ is good enough for your purposes. If you have a tripod for portraits you'll be fine. Personally I'm more of a IS shooter. I love the freedom of having no tripod to carry around and still get sharp shots at slow SS. The IS version has amazing IS im my opinion. Well worth the extra, what $300? A good tripod costs more than that.

My 17-40 is pretty sharp. I've had no issues with corner sharpness. It's quite acceptable except maybe the very very extreme corner. Which no real person looks at. A great lens and worth the money.
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2013, 12:54:47 PM »
Here's a shot taken at 17mm. A little extra sharpening was applied in PP. I find the 17-40 images sharpen up quite nicely.

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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2013, 12:58:57 PM »
It took me almost forever to buy the 24-105, having bought numerous alternatives but now that I have it it is the one lens I couldn't do without. IQ wise it easily beats my 24-70 f/2.8 MkI.

My strong advice is to keep your 24-105, be a little patient and save up for the 17-40 and 70-200 f/4L IS.
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2013, 01:03:29 PM »
It took me almost forever to buy the 24-105, having bought numerous alternatives but now that I have it it is the one lens I couldn't do without. IQ wise it easily beats my 24-70 f/2.8 MkI.

My strong advice is to keep your 24-105, be a little patient and save up for the 17-40 and 70-200 f/4L IS.

I also recently got my 24-105L and I agree with that.
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