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Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« on: June 24, 2013, 03:54:11 AM »
I have a EF 100mm f2.0 i use for portraits.

Now i will buy the 100mm f2.8 L IS Macro lens.

I ask myself it it makes sense to keep the 100mm f2.0?
Will i use it when i have the L?

Does f2.0 vs. f2.8 makes such a big difference that i like to keep the f2.0?
I use the EF 100mm f2.0 at f2.0 or f2.2 most of the time. I bought it for shallow DOF.

Or will the Macro be so good that i don´t use the EF 100mm f2.0 anymore?

Anyone who was in the same situation?
What do you think?




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Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« on: June 24, 2013, 03:54:11 AM »

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 04:04:06 AM »
Comparing the IQ of each (http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=118&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=674&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0) i don't think you would need the f/2 once you get the 2.8L....

but since you are going to buy the 100L anyway, you can  compare them yourself and see if the f/2 still has a place in your bag...  if not, sell it. I'm sure you will get a good re-sale price on it! :)

Either way, enjoy your new lens. :)

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 04:22:24 AM »
but since you are going to buy the 100L anyway, you can  compare them yourself and see if the f/2 still has a place in your bag...  if not, sell it. I'm sure you will get a good re-sale price on it! :)


Of course.. and i will.

I just wanted to know what you guys think (or how you decided in the same situation).

It will be a few days till i get my EF 100mm L IS. :)

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 05:16:19 AM »
Well, I think 100/2 will be still OK, because is smaller and have better bokeh for portraits. I'm actually just wondering to buy 100/2 :)

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 05:37:15 AM »
Well, I think 100/2 will be still OK, because is smaller and have better bokeh for portraits. I'm actually just wondering to buy 100/2 :)

it´s a very nice lens.

thought it has some problems with purple fringing wide open.
not a dealbreaker but you notice it when you shoot wide open and have bright edges.

sharpness is better then with the 85mm f1.8 i had before.
fringing of the 85mm f1,8 was also worse then the 100mm f2.0.

i will do my tests and look if the bokeh difference between the 100mm L and 100mm f2.0 is worth it.
 
thought i don´t prefer to have 2 lenses who cover the same focal length.
it´s just a hobby for me and if i sell the 100mm f2.0 i could buy another lens.

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 08:15:58 AM »
Gday.

I've the 100f2 and I have tried the 100L macro.

I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!
The L doesn't have the purple fringing, which I find a total pain.

If I were you I'd sell the 100 f2, and maybe replace it with the 135mm L f2. That one has less/none purple fringing.
The purple fringing means that I don't  use the 100 f2 often. But when I do use it , boy it is sharp!

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 09:34:14 AM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!

Yep - if you shoot indoor sports or the like, the extra stop and faster AF of the 100/2 make it a better choice.
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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 09:51:26 AM »
I own and use both for different reasons...If your "eye" leads  you to shoot a lot at that focal length, then keeping both of them can make sense.

The extra stop of speed can be a difference-maker depending on the lighting conditions; additionally, I prefer the rendering of the 2.0 for portraits.  I have had this lens for a decade and am continually pleased with its results.  The lens is also non-threatening to subjects which is a plus.

The macro is great for close focusing and appears "sharper"; that doesn't make it better depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

I tend to use the 2.0 more often, but still find enough use for the macro to keep it - at least for now.

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 11:59:22 AM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!

i read the EF 100mm F2.8 IS L macro is pretty fast focusing?
photozone writes "very fast AF".

and it has an AF limiter, so it should be fast.

is it not?
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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 12:01:45 PM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!
i read the EF 100mm F2.8 IS L macro is pretty fast focusing?
It's all relative.  Compared to the 85L II, the 100L is a speed demon.  But it's a lot slower than most other L-series lenses.
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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 12:07:00 PM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!
i read the EF 100mm F2.8 IS L macro is pretty fast focusing?
It's all relative.  Compared to the 85L II, the 100L is a speed demon.  But it's a lot slower than most other L-series lenses.

but the EF 100 f2.0 is not an L lens and much older... but it is still noticeable faster?
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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 12:14:38 PM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!
i read the EF 100mm F2.8 IS L macro is pretty fast focusing?
It's all relative.  Compared to the 85L II, the 100L is a speed demon.  But it's a lot slower than most other L-series lenses.
but the EF 100 f2.0 is not an L lens... but it is still noticeable faster?

Yes, it is.  The 85/1.8 is also faster, and much faster than the 85L.  For L-series lenses, I think the three slowest ones are the 180L Macro, the 85L, and the 100L Macro.  The 100L Macro also seems to hunt for focus more frequently than many other lenses, especially in dim light. 

It's also worth noting that despite being an f/2.8 lens, the 100L is in 'Group C' meaning on the 1D X/5DIII it doesn't activate any of the high-precision f/2.8 cross points.  But not to be outdone, the 180L Macro is in Group G, so while it's an f/3.5 lens not only does it not use the f/4 crosses, it can only use 33 of the 1D X/5DIII's 61 AF points. 

Bottom line, don't look to a macro lens for excellent AF.  Which is ok for me, because I'm almost always manually focusing for macro shooting, anyway.
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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 12:36:10 PM »
I don't like the slowpoke AF of the macro, compared to the 100f2. The 100f2 focusses instantly!

Yep - if you shoot indoor sports or the like, the extra stop and faster AF of the 100/2 make it a better choice.

Yes 2x the shutter speed also... albeit at a loss of sharpness. the 100/2 @F2 is not as sharp as the 100L is at 2.8.

But at 2.8 they are close, but it also defeats the advantage of a larger aperture of the 100 F2.

So if you want razor sharp images wide open, the 100L might be a better choice, if shutterspeed and AF speed are important then the duplication of ranges might be acceptable... although that would suggest you can afford a duplication, in which case, I'd suggest get the 135L and sell the 100F2, the 135L betters the 100F2 in almost every parameter.

 I too had the 86 F1.8 which some say is very similar to the 100F2, but it was no where as sharp as the 100L. Also the minimum Focus distance of the 100F2 was a tad disappointing... for me, so I sold them and kept the 100L.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 01:04:19 PM »
100 F/2 -------> 135L

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 02:22:45 PM »
I have a EF 100mm f2.0 i use for portraits.

Now i will buy the 100mm f2.8 L IS Macro lens.

I ask myself it it makes sense to keep the 100mm f2.0?
Will i use it when i have the L?

Does f2.0 vs. f2.8 makes such a big difference that i like to keep the f2.0?
I use the EF 100mm f2.0 at f2.0 or f2.2 most of the time. I bought it for shallow DOF.

Or will the Macro be so good that i don´t use the EF 100mm f2.0 anymore?

Anyone who was in the same situation?
What do you think?

I was in a similar situation, but I choose the non-IS 100mm macro lens because
of similar (or slightly better) overall IQ and I will keep the 2.0 100 lens:
  * I like to have f/2.0 for thin depth of field
  * I like the small size/unobtrusiveness of the 2.0 100
  * I like the overall structure/quality of the images at f/4.0-8.0: very detailed and contrasty
     but far from unnaturally sharp
  * I am amateur, so I love to shoot photos (it's in the name amateuer, perhaps amare, to love)

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Re: Does it make sense to keep my EF 100mm f2.0?
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