October 22, 2014, 06:04:41 AM

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which sensor would you prefer in the 7D II

24 MP, "usable" ISO up to 1600, 6 FPS
9 (7.1%)
16 MP, "usable" ISO up to 6400, 9 FPS
117 (92.9%)

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 07:36:37 AM »
Tough choice – in the end, it all boils down to your definition of usable… Best option would be 24MP with very clean/usable (i.e. no patterned read-out/banding noise) pictures up to ISO 12800  8)
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2013, 07:59:50 AM »
I would take any megapixel as long as the ugly noise goes away at all ISOs right up to and including 6400. All else can stay the same for all I care. 7D does well even by todays standards though.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2013, 08:56:14 AM »
 it isn't a difficult choice for me at all.   if I got it as a second body,  then I would want the faster frames per second.   low light, I  would really on my mkiii,  but  it isn't a tough choice.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2013, 09:04:18 AM »
Don't care about mps, 8mp 16:9 aspect would be perfect, 4k and straight downsampling to 1080hd.
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Oh yeah and i suppose the capacity to take stills would be nice.

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2013, 09:15:13 AM »
Another vote for low MP & better high ISO.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2013, 09:35:03 AM »
Like the majority, I would prefer improved high ISO performance, even if that requires the MP count to be kept down. I can't imagine a 7D II having less FPS than the original.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2013, 09:53:24 AM »
Definitely high ISO & FPS over MP. Birds do NOT sit still!

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2013, 11:08:42 AM »
You missed the third one… Availability.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2013, 11:29:43 AM »
Definitely high ISO, lower MP.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2013, 11:34:20 AM »
I have to wonder how many that voted for lower MP's and better ISO performance will then turn around and flame the 7d2 if it does in fact end up being low MP high ISO...lol

Ahhhh the 7d2, such a tricky camera to ponder.  When I had mine, I rarely had the need to use the high speed - I generally had that turned off because it was just overkill - but then again, I am not a sports shooter!

I guess it can go either way ---a baby 1dx or a baby 5d3...I'd hope for the latter because unless it does have good performance at high ISO, it won't be a camera I will consider...

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2013, 12:05:20 PM »
You missed the third one… Availability.
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2013, 12:42:54 PM »
Iso 1600 only? no way

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2013, 12:51:22 PM »
I have to wonder how many that voted for lower MP's and better ISO performance will then turn around and flame the 7d2 if it does in fact end up being low MP high ISO...lol

Ahhhh the 7d2, such a tricky camera to ponder.  When I had mine, I rarely had the need to use the high speed - I generally had that turned off because it was just overkill - but then again, I am not a sports shooter!

I guess it can go either way ---a baby 1dx or a baby 5d3...I'd hope for the latter because unless it does have good performance at high ISO, it won't be a camera I will consider...
I wouldn't complain for one. having a 5D2 and 5D3 I believe a 16MPx fast with high ISO capability 7DII would suit me fine. Plus 16MP*1.6*1.6 = 41 MP equivalent pixel density.
7D was somehow the baby 1D4 (somehow please don't start ...  :) ) so it is natural for me a low MP high fps count high ISO camera (like 16MP 9fps 6400 max usable ISO) to be the baby 1DX.
Also I consider 6D a baby 5D3 (again ... somehow  :)  )
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2013, 12:51:22 PM »

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2013, 12:53:32 PM »
Tough choice – in the end, it all boils down to your definition of usable… Best option would be 24MP with very clean/usable (i.e. no patterned read-out/banding noise) pictures up to ISO 12800  8)

In creating this poll, I wanted to get people think about the trade offs.  larger sensor, lower usable ISO, lower FPS.  Usable ISO is for you to define.  Perhaps a better way to state the difference is that at 16 MP, you would have +2 stops of S/N versus at 24 MP.

The thing I learned, perhaps Canon knows this too, that the people who answered this poll (which may be the potential buying public for this body) want better low light capability and higher FPS. 

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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2013, 01:13:44 PM »
3rd option:
28 MP APS-H, usable ISO 6400, 8 FPS + EF-S compatible in 18MP crop mode with 10fps
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Re: Pick between two options for the Canon 7D II
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2013, 01:13:44 PM »