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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #225 on: June 28, 2013, 08:34:38 PM »
New sensor sounds promising. Hope it's cleaner.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #225 on: June 28, 2013, 08:34:38 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #226 on: June 28, 2013, 08:43:22 PM »
New sensor sounds promising. Hope it's cleaner.

My 5D3 is lonely. :)
Ha, ha!  Mine is lonely now too!

Mine was too...until 2nd 5 III came :)
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #227 on: June 28, 2013, 10:40:19 PM »

For me, I'm much more interested in wifi ...  I have zero interest in social media and uploading images wirelessly is not important to me. 


For Commercial, Editorial and News Photographers (PJs) WiFi can be a BFD!! WiFi isn't just for uploading photos of your lunch.

Another interesting application of Wifi is using a tablet or phone as wireless remote WITH VIEWFINDER CAPABILITY. Especially for video this might help to control the camera silently - without clicking noises while setting aperture or exp. time.

yep. i love the 6D for taking remote photos of critters.

and sorry but some people are really restricted in one's thinking.
seeing beyond one's own nose often helps to get the whole picture. ;)

I really wish that this part of my original post made it into the quoted text:

"What I am interested in is wireless remote control of the camera."

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #228 on: June 28, 2013, 11:47:27 PM »
I don't have a source either, but I suspect that gps is more of a reason than wifi because the chip needs to look up for obvious reasons ... for the same reason the 70d seems to have a flash, but lacks gps.

GPS does not need to "look up".  If it did, then GPS would stop working when you turned the camera to take a photo in portrait orientation, and a metal-backed phone would not be able to support GPS at all, because it would not be able to see the GPS signals coming from any satellites that aren't behind you.  Radio signals just don't work that way unless you're using a directional antenna.


The strongest GPS signals come from directly overhead, but most of the time you can see between 7 to 10 satellites spread over the sky. The LEO satellites arc across the sky in passes ranging from a few minutes to several hours, we have 6 dishes at work tracking them so it makes a great visual aid to locating them :). The more satellites you can see, the greater the accuracy of your position, but 3 gets you pretty close, and even if you turned your camera upside down and lost all signals, the GPS unit remembers its last known location.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #229 on: June 29, 2013, 12:20:09 AM »
Finally!!! Looks good enough! Now I'm really torn between this and the 6D.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #230 on: June 29, 2013, 01:54:16 AM »
"In-Camera HDR"
Aha, the new Canon sensor will not have very much DR. In best case same as 6D?! Personally i doubt it.
Anyway, this function "In-Camera HDR" will work, probably, only with Jpeg-s.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #231 on: June 29, 2013, 02:19:17 AM »
"In-Camera HDR"
Aha, the new Canon sensor will not have very much DR. In best case same as 6D?! Personally i doubt it.
Anyway, this function "In-Camera HDR" will work, probably, only with Jpeg-s.
If it's like in the 5D3 then you can shoot the bracketed shots in RAW and get a preview in jpeg, then you can still use the RAW-files

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #231 on: June 29, 2013, 02:19:17 AM »

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« Reply #232 on: June 29, 2013, 02:46:51 AM »
Ok no more about that  ::)

Oh you mentioned the pub, that's another thing that's super expensive here. What was I thinking moving back?

Of course, but I get the impression that you are not back for good, so soak up the cultural benefits of being in Europe, and thank your lucky stars it is not winter, as I have seen those YT videos of what you Swedes get up to after too many schnapps! Even Anthony Bourdain partook in such a refreshing dip I believe!
You're right but it'll probably be a while before we move back. I'll keep travel back there though. Yes winter does things to us, when it's dark for three months you have to do something to cope  :D

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #233 on: June 29, 2013, 03:19:02 AM »
"In-Camera HDR"
Aha, the new Canon sensor will not have very much DR. In best case same as 6D?! Personally i doubt it.
Anyway, this function "In-Camera HDR" will work, probably, only with Jpeg-s.
If it's like in the 5D3 then you can shoot the bracketed shots in RAW and get a preview in jpeg, then you can still use the RAW-files

True, but if it's like the 6D then you only get the Jpeg file  :( I expect a similar HDR feature (if at all) in the 70D.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #234 on: June 29, 2013, 03:21:32 AM »

Of course for DR it's pretty certain that D7100 will be a clear winner.

I don't think Canon cares about DR vis-a-vis the Nikons ... that could only be so because the most of the users of the cameras also don't care about DR ... I'm no longer sure if I should care either.  ;)

More DR in canon cameras is certainly welcome, but it isn't all that matters.

Right.

The 70D needs to be compelling and different enough to get lots of 1xxxD, xxxD and xxD users to upgrade to it. The 60D was very underwhelming in that regard.

Personally, I don't expect to be overwhelmed by the 70D simply because if a 7D2 is in the pipeline, the richer features will go to the 7D2 exclusively. I expect the 7D2 and the 70D to co-exist just like the 5D3 and the 6D. 
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #235 on: June 29, 2013, 03:59:41 AM »
The strongest GPS signals come from directly overhead, but most of the time you can see between 7 to 10 satellites spread over the sky. The LEO satellites arc across the sky in passes ranging from a few minutes to several hours, we have 6 dishes at work tracking them so it makes a great visual aid to locating them :). The more satellites you can see, the greater the accuracy of your position, but 3 gets you pretty close, and even if you turned your camera upside down and lost all signals, the GPS unit remembers its last known location.

Right.  I keep forgetting it's purely time-based and not vector-based, so there's no real precision loss even if all three birds are in the same general direction (so long as they aren't collinear).  :)

Either way, the point remains that I would not expect an antenna under the display bezel (front face) to be significantly worse than an antenna on top, as that's the most common antenna orientation for devices like phones while you're using them.

I can think of no technical reason why Canon could not mount its GPS and Wi-Fi antennas inside the display bezel like Apple does with the Wi-Fi antennas on the MacBook Pro.  It's not like the screen will ever be made of metal.  And if they find that the signal isn't good enough for some reason, there are lots of interesting tricks they could do to get around it, like adding a couple of tiny bands of metal somewhere on the front, separated by rubber seals from the rest of the body.

Do you mean the display bezel at the back or the LCD one on top?

The one at the back has a user-replaceable plastic cover to protect it, so it may be that putting an antenna there will disrupt that design.

The one on the back.  There's usually not a way to attach an antenna usefully to a bezel itself.  Instead, they're typically screwed to part of the frame that supports the display panel, which in turn holds them right behind the bezel.  I wouldn't expect bezel antennas to interfere with the removable cover (or at least not any more than having a fragile display panel behind a removable cover).

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #236 on: June 29, 2013, 04:21:28 AM »
Either way, the point remains that I would not expect an antenna under the display bezel (front face) to be significantly worse than an antenna on top, as that's the most common antenna orientation for devices like phones while you're using them.

GPS does not need to "look up".

In my experience gps doesn't *need* to look up, but it certainly works better the less matter there is between the gps sensor and the satellites. At least with my dedicated gps logger, more occlusion means less precision and/or more battery drain because the gps needs to keep trying to find a signal.

Either way, the point remains that I would not expect an antenna under the display bezel (front face) to be significantly worse than an antenna on top, as that's the most common antenna orientation for devices like phones while you're using them.

That point was already made by Dr. Neuro, and it's indeed a mystery to me why they put it next to the prism instead of under the lcd display ... but then again I never screwed my camera open to see how the wiring is how it's built.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #237 on: June 29, 2013, 04:49:36 AM »
"In-Camera HDR"
Aha, the new Canon sensor will not have very much DR. In best case same as 6D?! Personally i doubt it.
Anyway, this function "In-Camera HDR" will work, probably, only with Jpeg-s.
If it's like in the 5D3 then you can shoot the bracketed shots in RAW and get a preview in jpeg, then you can still use the RAW-files

True, but if it's like the 6D then you only get the Jpeg file  :( I expect a similar HDR feature (if at all) in the 70D.
Oh I didn't know that.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #237 on: June 29, 2013, 04:49:36 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #238 on: June 29, 2013, 06:01:33 AM »
The 70D needs to be compelling and different enough to get lots of 1xxxD, xxxD and xxD users to upgrade to it. The 60D was very underwhelming in that regard.

Beyond any specs, the xxd line will always have customers like me who hate the Rebel ergonomics, small (grip) size, no back wheel, no top lcd, completely cripppled fw - I'd pay more just to not be bothered by these problems.

If it's like in the 5D3 then you can shoot the bracketed shots in RAW and get a preview in jpeg, then you can still use the RAW-files
True, but if it's like the 6D then you only get the Jpeg file :(
Oh I didn't know that.

I couldn't believe it either at first when I tried the 6d, and I am still wondering if I got it wrong: The fact that Canon forces the *source* files to be deleted is so impudent that it knocks your socks right off... and all reviews I know missed that, they only state "jpeg only" for hdr but don't say that it's impossible to do a custom hdr from raw afterwards in postprocessing and use the in-camera jpeg as a quick preview.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #239 on: June 29, 2013, 06:56:42 AM »
I like the look of this a lot.
I was almost about to buy the 6D with the 24-105mm f/4 but now I'm thinking 70D with EFS 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6.......or maybe get myself a 17-40 mm which would be a 27-64mm equivalent walkaround.
This changes things somewhat!
I like the specs. The two things that put me off the 6D are the AF and no built in flash. I don't much want a pop up flash but would like an integrated speedlite transmitter.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #239 on: June 29, 2013, 06:56:42 AM »