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alan_k

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #270 on: June 29, 2013, 10:28:41 PM »
I really hope "continuous images into one" includes a good in-camera panorama. Pretty lame when i have to ask my friend for her iphone panoramas.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #270 on: June 29, 2013, 10:28:41 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #271 on: June 29, 2013, 11:49:54 PM »
Might be a nice reach companion to the 5D3 at $1000 intro or thereabouts.
It's finally here!!! Hopefully it's a thousand at most.
60D body listed at $1099, so, that is the absolute lowest price it would be. I think the xxD used to list at $1299 or so, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this right around there.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #272 on: June 30, 2013, 05:55:09 AM »
i may have missed the conversation about it, but why is the Spec sheet gone

edit: nevermind, i found out.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2013, 06:01:23 AM by whothafunk »
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #273 on: June 30, 2013, 10:09:18 AM »
Might be a nice reach companion to the 5D3 at $1000 intro or thereabouts.
It's finally here!!! Hopefully it's a thousand at most.
60D body listed at $1099, so, that is the absolute lowest price it would be. I think the xxD used to list at $1299 or so, and I wouldn't be surprised to see this right around there.

Well... does anyone every really pay list price?  My 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii is listed at $4000 if I recall correctly.  If anyone wants to buy my used one for $3000... give me a call.  It is a 25% discount!
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #274 on: June 30, 2013, 10:34:53 AM »
If true, this is extremely surprising and rather awesome. Not too much to complain about on this list in terms of a 70D. I'd guess it comes in at $1299.
To be honest though, nothing short of an EOS-M sized camera with a FF sensor would get me too excited. My gear is good enough that having a smaller size and weight is the only improvement that I can actually claim to need.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #275 on: June 30, 2013, 11:22:18 AM »
I am also really anxious to see the sensor technology. A doctor of engineering I believe, added a remark on another forum that it was impossible for Canon at this stage to catch up with the competition? I know nothing about it but he researched it and came to this conclusion.
Really curious to see if he is right or hopefully wrong? Regardless, it wont hurt the bottom line of Canon IMO. But interesting to see the direction they are headed.
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #276 on: June 30, 2013, 11:24:04 AM »
Well... does anyone every really pay list price?  My 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii is listed at $4000 if I recall correctly.  If anyone wants to buy my used one for $3000... give me a call.  It is a 25% discount!

List price of 70-200 f2.8 IS Mk II is $2,499 http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/lenses-flashes/telephoto-zoom-lenses/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-is-ii-usm?WT.mc_id=C126149 with $300 rebate, price is $2,199. That is the also the price at B&H, Adorama and Amazon and is the mandated minimum advertised price under Canon policies. So, yes, people do pay list price.

The 25% off list that you are offering brings it down to $1,649. I'm not interested, but others may be.

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« Reply #276 on: June 30, 2013, 11:24:04 AM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #277 on: June 30, 2013, 11:27:13 AM »
Ehm, Canon can easily catch up with Nikon et al. They can just buy the Sony sensors too. The question is if they want to or try to catch up/pass them by with their own sensors?

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #278 on: June 30, 2013, 11:28:58 AM »
...A doctor of engineering I believe, added a remark on another forum that it was impossible for Canon at this stage to catch up with the competition? I know nothing about it but he researched it and came to this conclusion...

A dermatologist is an M.D., but if I need a heart bypass, I won't be going to one. Unless your "doctor of engineering" actually works in Canon's research labs, he knows nothing more than you or me.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #279 on: June 30, 2013, 01:52:53 PM »
...A doctor of engineering I believe, added a remark on another forum that it was impossible for Canon at this stage to catch up with the competition? I know nothing about it but he researched it and came to this conclusion...

A dermatologist is an M.D., but if I need a heart bypass, I won't be going to one. Unless your "doctor of engineering" actually works in Canon's research labs, he knows nothing more than you or me.

That's not true, it requires investment of billions USD   to get the same sensor lines as  for example Sony has.
There is no indications of that has be done  in the annual reports from Canon or from the market, it is  necessary for example to buy  new  steppers and   lenses  from zeiss and  in the million dollar  class  to the lithography equipment for larger sensor areas as APS and 24x36.

Your statement is just as untrue. Canon designs and builds their own lithography equipment, builds their own lenses, their own steppers, and are just as capable of DOING that if they CHOOSE TO as anyone else. I'd also point out that while Sony has spent tens of billions of dollars in borrowed money, putting their bond status to "junk", Canon has been raking in the hundreds of billions through sales alone. Canon is more than capable of spending a billion or two to create a fab capable of fabricating 180nm, 90nm, or even 65nm parts. It is a matter of whether they choose to or not. The one thing about Canon is they know when to protect their bottom line...and now really is the time. The market is stiffer, the majority of modern sensor development applies to markets Canon cares nothing about (very small form factor sensors for small form factor devices like phones, phablets and tablets) and which do not present significant competition to their primary markets, devastating natural disasters that are unpredictable, and when they hit require reserves of money to recover from, and at the moment the competition is still barely putting a dent in Canon's dominant market share despite their supposedly radically superior "technology".

If and when Canon actually feels the pain of all the innovation going on in the marketplace, I don't doubt they will compete. I also wouldn't be surprised to learn they have a number of their own sensor manufacturing techniques to improve their designs up their sleeve, which they will drop on the competition when it serves them best. Technology is only part of the game, and if Canon's success and market share are telling in any way, not the most important part.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #280 on: June 30, 2013, 02:06:48 PM »
this is indeed a nice upgrade from the 60D... i will be upgrading to the 70D and picking up the 5D Mark III soon!!
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #281 on: June 30, 2013, 02:24:32 PM »
Not sure if it's been discussed, but does it have MFA?
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #282 on: June 30, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »
It was rather stupid of Canon not to give AFMA to the 60D.

I hope this facility returns in the 70D to make it a serious camera.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #282 on: June 30, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« Reply #283 on: June 30, 2013, 03:19:20 PM »
Well... does anyone every really pay list price?  My 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii is listed at $4000 if I recall correctly.  If anyone wants to buy my used one for $3000... give me a call.  It is a 25% discount!

List price of 70-200 f2.8 IS Mk II is $2,499 http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/lenses-flashes/telephoto-zoom-lenses/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-is-ii-usm?WT.mc_id=C126149 with $300 rebate, price is $2,199. That is the also the price at B&H, Adorama and Amazon and is the mandated minimum advertised price under Canon policies. So, yes, people do pay list price.

The 25% off list that you are offering brings it down to $1,649. I'm not interested, but others may be.

I wonder which lens I saw that was 50% off.  Ehh... but I did buy the 70-200 in like new condition for $1700... so I guess I did get nearly a 25% off discount. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #284 on: June 30, 2013, 03:24:53 PM »

Your statement is just as untrue. Canon designs and builds their own lithography equipment, builds their own lenses, their own steppers, and are just as capable of DOING that if they CHOOSE TO as anyone else. I'd also point out that while Sony has spent tens of billions of dollars in borrowed money, putting their bond status to "junk", Canon has been raking in the hundreds of billions through sales alone. Canon is more than capable of spending a billion or two to create a fab capable of fabricating 180nm, 90nm, or even 65nm parts. It is a matter of whether they choose to or not. The one thing about Canon is they know when to protect their bottom line...and now really is the time. The market is stiffer, the majority of modern sensor development applies to markets Canon cares nothing about (very small form factor sensors for small form factor devices like phones, phablets and tablets) and which do not present significant competition to their primary markets, devastating natural disasters that are unpredictable, and when they hit require reserves of money to recover from, and at the moment the competition is still barely putting a dent in Canon's dominant market share despite their supposedly radically superior "technology".

If and when Canon actually feels the pain of all the innovation going on in the marketplace, I don't doubt they will compete. I also wouldn't be surprised to learn they have a number of their own sensor manufacturing techniques to improve their designs up their sleeve, which they will drop on the competition when it serves them best. Technology is only part of the game, and if Canon's success and market share are telling in any way, not the most important part.

There surely are intresting times ahead of us according to jrista. Hope Canon will choose to present a thoroughly new sensor fabrication approach ASAP.  8)
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Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« Reply #284 on: June 30, 2013, 03:24:53 PM »