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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2013, 11:00:50 AM »
Why is such fowl language trash allowed on this site ?

There is no insight/experience or information in this video ? He reads the spec and curses ?
Free speech, even foul language should be permitted; however, appropriate warnings should be given that such language is used.

Foul language is a sign of those without proper education. They cannot make an impact with normal vocabulary, so they resort to cursing. It speaks volume about the speaker and less about the message. I'm unswayed but a curse-filled rant than I might have been with an educated discussion.




Steve Jobs cursed all the time and yet some people thought he was a genius.  ::)


I don't get how you people equate the use or non-usage of foul language as a representation of a person's intelligence. I know people who sound like very eloquent idiots. They use large words to sound intelligent but have absolutely no substance in what they are saying.
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2013, 11:00:50 AM »

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2013, 11:21:30 AM »
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I don't get how you people equate the use or non-usage of foul language as a representation of a person's intelligence. I know people who sound like very eloquent idiots. They use large words to sound intelligent but have absolutely no substance in what they are saying.

How very true  ;)
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2013, 11:48:59 AM »
C'mon people it's just one more bored kid who who wants to get some fame, he probably does not even own a camera. The web is full of that kind of stuff, it doesn't mean anything at all. I watched the video for my own education, I mainly ended being sorry for him.

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2013, 01:33:42 PM »
Everyone has their own rights to their own opinions... He has the right to overract and be a hater, we have the right to believe he's an idiot... case closed. 
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2013, 01:35:36 PM »
...My point is that the past is usually a good indicator to the future.  Canon likes to recycle its tech for generations.  Nikon, Fuji, etc., have surged ahead with their APS-C cameras...

This statement doesn't seem to have much relationship to reality. In which generation of XXD cameras did Canon recycle its tech? 20D to 30D I guess, but certainly not the 30D to 40D, 40D to 50D, or 50D to 60D. How about XD cameras? I can't find any 1D or 5D generation that shared the same sensor tech as the previous generation. Are you aware of one?

How exactly have Nikon, Fuji etc. "surged ahead" with their APS-C cameras? Nikon seems to be cramming more megapixels into the sensors they are using, but it comes at a price in noise at higher ISOs.  Canon's nearly four-year-old 18mp sensor still competes very well. Fuji is doing some interesting things, but again, we are talking marginal improvements rather than surging ahead.

A more accurate statement would be that after nearly four years, competitors have finally started to catch up to Canon.

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2013, 01:59:36 PM »
i like this camera will wait till it's out to test...

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2013, 02:19:11 PM »
A more accurate statement would be that after nearly four years, competitors have finally started to catch up to Canon.

Perhaps more accurate still is that the competitors, especially Sony and their sensors as partnered with Nikon, Pentax and Fuji, have significantly OUTPACED Canon's development in the last 5 yrs.

Canon's DSLRs have provided very good performance, especially at higher ISO since they implemented their CMOS sensor WAY back.  However, since the intro of Nikon's D90 about 5 yrs ago, the competition has steadily improved low iso read performance (& hi iso to a perhaps lesser extent) to such a level that Canon now has an obvious handicap in the fixed pattern noise department.

Whether or not you find this an issue for your own work is not the point, it's just a fact.  I'd like a replacement for my 7d that I can also press into high DR landscape use with fewer limitations.

I'm eager to see if Canon has pulled at least the ears of a rabbit out of a hat with the 70D.

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« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2013, 02:19:11 PM »

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2013, 03:14:30 PM »
Everyone has their own rights to their own opinions... He has the right to overract and be a hater, we have the right to believe he's an idiot... case closed.

Can we still HOPE they'll sell their gear and move to Nikon, and presumably, Nikon forums.
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2013, 06:28:19 PM »
This kid is a tool. Camera hasn't been launched yet, at least hate after you have one in your hands!!!
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2013, 06:51:02 PM »
ok , is it you or the camera who takes pretty good pictures?
can I send out a 1dx to take good pictures ?

I'd have to say both.  In the past few days, I've been outside shooting snowy egrets and tricolor herons in flight from/over water, closeup shots at a significant distance from land. I've also shot an indoor gymnastics exhibition, fast moving gymnasts in a dimly-lit gymnasium where flash was not permitted. Usable shots from an iPhone in those situations?  No.  Maybe if I was shooting a simple sunset, the iPhone would do just fine...
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2013, 07:16:48 PM »
I hope this does not turn into another "it's the photographer not the gear" discussion  :o
You probably just jinxed us! :P
You might be right.  ;D We'll see how long it goes this time ...

BTW, personally I'm a "It's the whole package" kind of guy...its the gear, its the photographer, its the lighting...its everything put together. You can't really have any one without all the others. Doh...

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2013, 07:38:46 PM »
...My point is that the past is usually a good indicator to the future.  Canon likes to recycle its tech for generations.  Nikon, Fuji, etc., have surged ahead with their APS-C cameras...
This statement doesn't seem to have much relationship to reality.

You made a funny!  Tell me the biggest difference between the sensor in the T2i and T5i.  No relationship at all, right?

Let's see...there are xxxxD cameras, xxxD cameras, xxD cameras, 7D, 5-series, and 1-series cameras.  Of all those lines, how many have reused sensors?  One.  Not coincidentally, it's the only line refreshed annually.  Think consumers would pay the increased cost to fund development of a new sensor for the xxxD line every year?

Oh, and the T2i has phase detection on the CMOS sensor, right?   ::)
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2013, 08:53:11 PM »
Let's see...there are xxxxD cameras, xxxD cameras, xxD cameras, 7D, 5-series, and 1-series cameras.  Of all those lines, how many have reused sensors?  One.  Not coincidentally, it's the only line refreshed annually.  Think consumers would pay the increased cost to fund development of a new sensor for the xxxD line every year?

Oh, and the T2i has phase detection on the CMOS sensor, right?   ::)
Tell me with a straight face that you can tell meaningful performance differences of the sensor between those crop sensors.  If so, how?  Remember, keep the comments to meaningful rather than de minimus.  Tell me which does not look like cat barf at 1600 ISO.  Your 7D sure does and it is the best of the bunch.

My point was that there's no incentive for Canon to (really) update the sensor in a line that's updated every year.  Doing so would make no fiscal sense, for them. Reusing sensors does, and passing them down from higher lines to lower lines also makes fiscal sense.  They are having no problems selling the cameras using (and reusing) those sensors, and they're making a profit and gaining market share in a time when other companies are reporting losses and/or borrowing heavily.

Can you tell me with a straight face that you expect Canon to release a Rebel body with a truly new sensor every year?  Just to please you?  ::)
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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2013, 08:53:11 PM »

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2013, 10:55:57 PM »
Can you tell me with a straight face that you expect Canon to release a Rebel body with a truly new sensor every year?  Just to please you?  ::)
That would be great for consumers (well, at least short term), but bad for investors/share holders. Management probably wouldn't last long with the profits going down.

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2013, 11:12:20 PM »
Thanks to everyone for letting me know not to bother watching this video.

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Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2013, 11:12:20 PM »