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Help me save this photo!
« on: July 02, 2013, 02:55:46 AM »
So, I just scanned in 2 rolls I shot a couple of weeks ago and developed at a place that is easier for me to get to and can be a day or two faster to get the rolls back to me. Unfortunately, it appears that they scratched both rolls, right across the upper 3rd. Multiple lines. *J$@J*JFOIJDSI$   Didn't see this happen on the Ektar 100 I had them develop, but seeing it on the 2 B&W rolls.

Anyway, scanned in the keepers, but now I need to go in and try and digitally save them, as in some of them it's very, very evident. So, what techniques should I use? I've got Lightroom 5 and Photoshop CS 5.1 and a wall that I can bang my head against.

Here are 2 samples, one is the obvious problem, the other it's not so apparent through most of the image thanks to busier background. I'm not so concerned with that one.
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Help me save this photo!
« on: July 02, 2013, 02:55:46 AM »

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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 04:40:30 AM »
What's the big deal? Just get to it and use healing brush. Clone tool will fuck up royaly in areas with wide tonality.

This result took me less than 5 minutes in photoshop.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 04:48:08 AM »
Again... around 5 minutes with healing brush. Took a bit longer because of the detailed texture. Working in close.... small brush.

It's all about learning the tool, not just using the tool itself.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 05:09:20 AM »
Did you tell the lab?  They may need to clean their rollers in the processor, or it could have been debris on your pressure plate as well.

Had this happen occassionally.

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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 05:36:35 AM »
Lines are black!! Scratches in the negative are always white.The lab have to fix a big problem!
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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 06:32:05 AM »
I didn't have time to read the topic, but I usually just use Ctrl + S. This might be different on a Mac, but on a PC it works great for saving photos.


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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 07:07:21 AM »
Ok... but they are not going to fix it by you sitting here......

I already told you this can be fixed in 5 minutes photoshop. So stop yapping here and go to work. Honestly...

I've seen worse cases when I worked as fashion / beauty retoucher in London and those were still easily mended in photoshop.

Stop making this a bigger issue than it needs to be.... or consider shooting digital instead? There's not really ANY incentive to shoot film than because you find it funny haha or hobby or what ever. Grain can be added afterwards anyways.... and by afterwards I mean scanning a developed negative and laying it on top of the digital photo.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 07:25:58 AM »

Stop making this a bigger issue than it needs to be.... or consider shooting digital instead? There's not really ANY incentive to shoot film than because you find it funny haha or hobby or what ever. Grain can be added afterwards anyways.... and by afterwards I mean scanning a developed negative and laying it on top of the digital photo.


Yes, of course, digital is more easy, but maybe you can said to me what digital camera have the same quality of a well scanned 6 X 7 for the same price i can pay for a second hand Mamiya RB 67.
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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 08:00:08 AM »
leGreve +1

stop pricking about and get on with it  :)
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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 08:04:47 AM »
About eight minutes for me.  "Spot Healing Brush" for the dust and then "Healing Brush" in "Normal" mode for the lines.   (I wasted a couple minutes creating paths along the lines to be stroked by the spot healing brush, but content aware fill was seeing a pattern to the lines and was creating echos of the other scratches.)

I've been scanning quite a few old family negatives lately and some sets have loads of scratches on them.  I've guessed that it was their negative-cutter that was doing lots of damage as the original prints don't show problems.
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 08:40:32 AM »
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Lines are black!! Scratches in the negative are always white

Scratches in the negative are white true...but they turn black when a positive is made. Like a scan.

As others have clearly noted...this is such a minor issue especially since you were gonna need to use the healing brush like crazy to clean up all that dust.

Now if you wanted to have an enlarger print done...that's a different story.
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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 08:55:26 AM »
there you go. about 3 mins. got rid of the pesky swimmers and boats for you too. And levelled up your horizon...  8)
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 09:25:29 AM »
there you go. about 3 mins. got rid of the pesky swimmers and boats for you too. And levelled up your horizon...  8)

Lewis, while you're at this, can you remove the fish from the water also? Oh, and the jellyfish for sure!

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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 09:46:53 AM »

Stop making this a bigger issue than it needs to be.... or consider shooting digital instead? There's not really ANY incentive to shoot film than because you find it funny haha or hobby or what ever. Grain can be added afterwards anyways.... and by afterwards I mean scanning a developed negative and laying it on top of the digital photo.


Yes, of course, digital is more easy, but maybe you can said to me what digital camera have the same quality of a well scanned 6 X 7 for the same price i can pay for a second hand Mamiya RB 67.

Heh... we have one lying around the studio because we don't know what to do with it.... it's a fossil. On our 4 Hasselblad 503 we have old Phase One backs delivering 10mp photos, 20 on the newer ones.

It's not about the film... it's about the glass.

Having said that, I'd still rather pick up a Canon DSLR and shoot with that instead of an old Mamiya when doing location shots.
And if it needs to be flashy, then the only way to go is a proper new PhaseOne.
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Re: Help me save this photo!
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 10:17:42 AM »
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Lines are black!! Scratches in the negative are always white

Scratches in the negative are white true...but they turn black when a positive is made. Like a scan.

As others have clearly noted...this is such a minor issue especially since you were gonna need to use the healing brush like crazy to clean up all that dust.

Now if you wanted to have an enlarger print done...that's a different story.
Scanning with a scanner or enlarging with an enlarger is the same thing: make a positive from a negative.
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Re: Help me save this photo!
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