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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2013, 01:53:52 AM »
If you're used to the long reach of a crop, and you're certainly you'll make use of it, the 70-300L is a superb lens.

(truth be told, however, I would wait a bit and see if you don't find that cropping images from your 24-105 isn't just as suitable - when I upgraded to the 5D3 I bought the 70-300L since I was so used to the 320mm equivalent on my 50D, yet I use it very little - I can usually just crop the long end of my 24-105)

I would also recommend the shorty 40.  Very inexpensive, the IQ is amazing, and it's very convenient for those times you want to be subtle.


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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2013, 01:53:52 AM »

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2013, 02:05:10 AM »
IMO, it is the choice between the 70-200/4 IS and the 70-300 L. Slightly more speed vs. slightly more range. Unlike Neuro, my 70-200 stays vertically in my bag and takes the same space as any other "normal" lens. The 70-300 would not fit in my bag, I guess.
It probably would - it is shorter than the 70-200. See comparison here: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Lens-Product-Images.aspx?Lens=404&LensComp=738&LensComp2=687

It might be too fat.
Well, just stretch the bag a bit  ;)
But seriously, If, I already owned a 70-200 and wanted more reach, I'd consider a 1.4x Extender, especially if I had more lenses that could benefit from it. Or buy a prime longer than 300mm
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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2013, 02:18:04 AM »
Congrats...welcome to FF world :)

Highly recommend one of these:

1. 70-200 f2.8 IS II - if budget allows

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2. 135L

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2013, 06:23:04 AM »
How do people feel about the 135L with an extender?

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2013, 07:20:56 AM »
The 50 f 1.4 is a fine lens, works well for me.
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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2013, 07:24:56 AM »
How do people feel about the 135L with an extender?

It takes the extender ok, but it will lose to the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II in IQ/IS.  If you don't have 70-200L zoom, then 135 + extender is a good way to extend the focal length range.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2013, 07:56:16 AM »
How do people feel about the 135L with an extender?

It takes the extender ok, but it will lose to the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II in IQ/IS.  If you don't have 70-200L zoom, then 135 + extender is a good way to extend the focal length range.

Do you think it is better than the 70-300? 

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2013, 08:44:14 AM »
How do people feel about the 135L with an extender?

It takes the extender ok, but it will lose to the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II in IQ/IS.  If you don't have 70-200L zoom, then 135 + extender is a good way to extend the focal length range.

Do you think it is better than the 70-300?

The 70-300L will have better IQ than the 135L + 2x.  The 70-300L matches well against the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II.  The 70-200L f/2.8 IS II focuses better on lower contrast targets, tracks better, and has a 1-2 stop advantage but is heavier than the 70-300L.  The 70-300L is compact and lighter, costs less than the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II, and delivers IQ that nearly matches the 70-200L over much of the overlapping range and is better at 300 than the 70-200 is at 280.

For those that shoot sports and portraits, the 70-200 f/2.8 II is the ultimate zoom lens but is heavy.  It also takes extenders well.  The 70-200 + 1.4x will nearly match the 70-300L at the long end and will be a stop faster, and the 70-200 + 2.0x will come close to 100-400L.  The 70-300L is arguably the best travel lens.  For controlled portraits or when trying to maximize discretion (although a dSLR with a L lens will likely be much larger than what many people use, i.e. cellphones) or going for the shallowest DOF/maximum background blur, the 135L is a good choice, but for most other use cases, the zooms are better.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2013, 08:57:10 AM »
Also, no IS on the 135 is a big factor, even without extenders.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2013, 09:03:44 AM »
Also, no IS on the 135 is a big factor, even without extenders.

fwiw, the 135 L is my favorite lens on my FF body. I am personally in the camp that believes IS is a crutch to too many shooters. A TON of great images were created before it's inception and if you have a high ISO capable body such as the 5D3 or 1Dx it's not an issue. This lens resolves like no other in my arsenal and has the most fabulous contrast and color rendition.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2013, 09:47:07 AM »
Also, no IS on the 135 is a big factor, even without extenders.

fwiw, the 135 L is my favorite lens on my FF body. I am personally in the camp that believes IS is a crutch to too many shooters. A TON of great images were created before it's inception and if you have a high ISO capable body such as the 5D3 or 1Dx it's not an issue. This lens resolves like no other in my arsenal and has the most fabulous contrast and color rendition.

I own the 135L, and I consider it the best lens I own or have used. But ... speaking about 135 + extenders, lack of IS is a big problem. BTW, tons of great images were painted before photography was invented.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2013, 10:18:15 AM »
How do people feel about the 135L with an extender?

It takes the extender ok, but it will lose to the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II in IQ/IS.  If you don't have 70-200L zoom, then 135 + extender is a good way to extend the focal length range.

Do you think it is better than the 70-300?

The 135L + 1.4x is definitely not better than the 70-300L (but it's pretty similar to the 70-300 non-L).
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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2013, 10:36:23 AM »
So I finally made the jump and upgraded my T2i to a 6D.  I am LOVING it.  I know that there are lots of critics out there that have negative things to say about the 6D, but being an amateur / hobbyist, I could not be happier.  The one downside (which I obviously knew going into this) was not being able to use my EF-S lenses (Canon 10-22 and Tamron 18-270) so I am in the process of selling those. 

I currently have the Canon 24-105 and the Canon 50 f/1.8 lenses for the 6D.  I don't have a substantial budget, but I am thinking that I need to get a zoom lens as well.  What do people recommend?  I am currently between the following:

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 L IS USM Lens
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens (I know there are always rumors of this lens being upgraded - but let's put that aside for now). 
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L USM Lens
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4 L IS USM Lens

Would appreciate thoughts of the group and especially experience from those with the Canon 6D who own any of the above lenses. 

Thanks!

Looks like your looking for a longer lens based on the list.  I know it just got discontinued, but, if you can find a copy of the 70-200 2.8 (the non-IS version) snag it.  Price wise it shouldn't be too bad.  It's a great lens and I see that other longer lenses without IS are on your list, so te lack of IS shouldn't be an issue.

Other options to consider -

85mm 1.8 is a great lens
135 is a great lens. 

I'd list more but that would probably mean selling stuff (like that 24-105)
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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2013, 10:36:23 AM »

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2013, 10:38:05 AM »
Also, no IS on the 135 is a big factor, even without extenders.

fwiw, the 135 L is my favorite lens on my FF body. I am personally in the camp that believes IS is a crutch to too many shooters. A TON of great images were created before it's inception and if you have a high ISO capable body such as the 5D3 or 1Dx it's not an issue. This lens resolves like no other in my arsenal and has the most fabulous contrast and color rendition.


I own the 135L, and I consider it the best lens I own or have used. But ... speaking about 135 + extenders, lack of IS is a big problem. BTW, tons of great images were painted before photography was invented.


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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »
As others have posted, I do not recommend the 70-300 non-L. I can, however, highly recommend the 70-300L. I have one and love it. That said, It fits my needs, which may be different from yours.

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Re: So I made the jump to FF - now what?
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »