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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2013, 10:08:09 AM »
So just like I thought, you have no idea.
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Re: Just got my 135L!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2013, 10:12:17 AM »
In the spirit of getting back on the OP's topic, I just got my 135mm f/2 L a few weeks ago and I love it. $900 from a local, trusted professional photographer. If you look online, these things just aren't losing their value much. I felt like I got a great deal on a high quality, carefully used lens.
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2013, 11:04:32 AM »
Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\


Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html


On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is.  You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera. 

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished.  Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.


Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)


Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.



With 15yrs in mannufacturing, controlling CMs over sea...this method is currently been use in BIG companies. I should had said in my statement about 3rd party vendors, this is elec. 3 party vendor components. (capacitor, resistor, IC chip, SMT parts etc...)

I'll give you a hint: time = $. Putting more time to repair defective parts and sell for less is not how business operates. Today, big companies don't even try to trouble shoot in components level anymore. They replace PCB, WP levels.

Without knowledge in today manufacturing: "LEAN MANAFACTURING" & "SUPPLY CHAIN", your comments could make you look ignorant.

You mentioned, "I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside" ==> Unless you can indentify the original elec. components that were called out from Canon Bill of Material in MFG.

THE TRUE HURT, therefore,  people don't like to hear it ;)


It sure helps to be an electrical engineer chip designer in this situation where I can compare the components on the boards of the refurbished lenses to that of my new lenses...

You may know manufacturing tech (even though it obviously seems like you clearly do not), but this is not a debate on the widely accepted practice of refurbishing products. Unlike other companies, Canon does not do what you claim them to be doing. Making hasty generalizations about a specific company (Canon) which you have no experience with kinda makes you look ignorant.

Really, if you want to prove your right, pull apart the lenses and show the internal chip components are different. Plain and simple

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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2013, 12:09:51 PM »
So much for getting this thread back on topic. I guess I'll go have fun and shoot with my 135mm f/2 L now.
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2013, 12:12:51 PM »
So much for getting this thread back on topic. I guess I'll go have fun and shoot with my 135mm f/2 L now.

HAHA.  Thanks for trying. 
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2013, 12:49:03 PM »
Fantastic! Congratulations!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2013, 01:10:28 PM »
I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. Easily my favorite lens yet.
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Re: Just got my 135L!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2013, 01:14:47 PM »
I was debating purchasing a 135L - actually placed an order for a refurb at a great deal with Canon but later changed my mind and canceled it... reason being that i already own the 100/2.8L and 85/1.8. Reading owners comments on both 135/2L and 100/2.8L it seems like the two are pretty close in terms of image quality but 100/2.8L is more verstile with macro focus ability (135 min focus distance is 3 ft) as well as IS.

Anyone who has owned both could comment on both these? DO you agree the two lenses are pretty similar but with 100 being more verstile?

Two different lenses. A lot of fun with the 100, but the 135 for killer portraits :)
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2013, 01:15:27 PM »
I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. I have this trust issue with used things, especially high quality technology, but I pulled the trigger anyways. The lens arrived in immaculate condition, basically brand new. These following shots are LITERALLY the first two shots I took out front of my house. Wow, the countless comments I read on this forum really do live up to the hype. Easily my favorite lens yet.

Congrats! My favorite lens :)
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2013, 01:32:58 PM »
Wow! That's really really good to hear about canon refurb!! Thanks!!

Quick question... Is it worth getting the 135L even for crop sensor? Lol thanks! I might "just" get one.

To my great annoyance my wife very often steals my 135 for her 600D. Don't understand why she can't use the 18-55 IS II that came with it? ;)

It produces outstanding pictures on a crop as well!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2013, 01:43:55 PM »
Have fun with it.
If I may recommend something: my keeper rate increased a lot using a monopod, the older version of an IS.
This lens is cracking sharp, so you notice every little bit of motion blur.
I love it.
Caused very often a grin looking at the final result......

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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2013, 01:58:30 PM »
I was debating purchasing a 135L - actually placed an order for a refurb at a great deal with Canon but later changed my mind and canceled it... reason being that i already own the 100/2.8L and 85/1.8. Reading owners comments on both 135/2L and 100/2.8L it seems like the two are pretty close in terms of image quality but 100/2.8L is more verstile with macro focus ability (135 min focus distance is 3 ft) as well as IS.

Anyone who has owned both could comment on both these? DO you agree the two lenses are pretty similar but with 100 being more verstile?


I have a llot of good lenses..
theh MAIN ones I want to take out..
are the 14L II, 35 sigma and then EITHER the 100L macro or 135L f2..

so to your question ...I have a tough time deciding..
the 135 gives faster aperture...for lo light, takes a 1.4x well  and has a little better quality bokeh...
seems more useful
BUT the 100 L  macro is quite good and if I.S. is needed in the mix...it goes ...instead of the 135

so you see ....it is a toss-up ...unless I.s  versus f2 speed is a decider...

I am a stop and shoot the flowers guy so the macro 'draws more water' with me...
but some days I take the 14L 35 sig and 85L II(or maybe the 135 f2) JUST for lo light, first-sun AM shots..
tha macro has no standing on those moments...

cant lose... just choose

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and I await the NEW SENSOR/focus tech...70D...and then FF
... and these new options with the SAME FREAKIN LENSES....go Canon!!!

I bet
if macro is not so important to you ...then 135 f2 and a 12mm tube is fine...
I.S. is a helper ...not a decider... I suppose

TOM

the real news is..... the sigma 35 1.4 is sharper than any comparable canon ...wide open...
man....I love it....
pair that with a 135 f2, (or 85L II) and you have a serious lo-light kit....add a 14L for some spicy flavor

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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2013, 02:06:58 PM »
I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. I have this trust issue with used things, especially high quality technology, but I pulled the trigger anyways. The lens arrived in immaculate condition, basically brand new. These following shots are LITERALLY the first two shots I took out front of my house. Wow, the countless comments I read on this forum really do live up to the hype. Easily my favorite lens yet.
Congratulations, but beware, that was my "gateway" lens - leading me into the very costly world of L lenses!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2013, 02:58:52 PM »
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the 135 [...] has a little better quality bokeh...

This is a huge understatement.

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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2013, 03:01:17 PM »
I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. I have this trust issue with used things, especially high quality technology, but I pulled the trigger anyways. The lens arrived in immaculate condition, basically brand new. These following shots are LITERALLY the first two shots I took out front of my house. Wow, the countless comments I read on this forum really do live up to the hype. Easily my favorite lens yet.

Congratulations! I don't get tired of saying it: between this one and my 50 there is really not much else I need. And given that this is a lens for under a grand it's really a steal. Shh...don't tell Canon but I would have easily shelled out a lot more for mine. Perfect size, weight, solid feel (given how much plastic is used these days), not a zoom, no IS. Just what I prefer. And the creamy backgrounds and incredible detail are still stunning even two years in or so.

Enjoy.
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Re: Just got my 135L!
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2013, 03:01:17 PM »