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Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« on: July 09, 2013, 11:59:21 AM »

Lots of talk

There is lots of talk about the successor to the Canon EOS 7D.  For the last 6 months we have written that the EOS 70D would move up rung in features in the EOS lineup, as such the EOS 7D Mark II will be doing the same thing.


We’re told two possible sensors are in play for the EOS 7D Mark II, the 20.2mp sensor in the 70D and a 24.1mp sensor that has yet to see the light of day. If they want separation with the EOS 7D Mark II and to charge a premium for it, I think moving beyond the sensor that will appear in the next Rebel, an EOS M camera and the EOS 70D is a good idea.


When is it coming?

It will not be shipping before the end of 2013, there is a possibility of an announcement before the year is out, but I’d say that is unlikely at this time. Timing could also depend on what Nikon is going to be doing with the D400. We’ve been told for ages that the EOS 7D Mark II will be an early 2014 camera.


We’re also told that 2 new “pro” bodies will arrive in 2014, and that doesn’t include the EOS 7D Mark II, which will be a pro specced APS-C camera.


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Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 12:08:48 PM »
If the 70D is ready for shipment by September, I can't imagine a lot of 7D's will be sold thereafter.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 12:13:37 PM »
I got a question please guys.

Most photographers I know don't put much stock into the number of megapixels, often citing printing size as the sole benefit.

Is this true? Is there really nothing else to megapixels other than printing size?
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 12:21:03 PM »
I'm curious about the 2 "pro" bodies - one of will be the high megapixel camera but the other will be?.....
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2013, 12:23:21 PM »
I got a question please guys.

Most photographers I know don't put much stock into the number of megapixels, often citing printing size as the sole benefit.

Is this true? Is there really nothing else to megapixels other than printing size?

The ability to crop is (or can be) a biggie.  When I am shooting fast moving sports I often give myself a little extra margin in camera knowing that I can crop it later.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2013, 12:30:08 PM »
I got a question please guys.

Most photographers I know don't put much stock into the number of megapixels, often citing printing size as the sole benefit.

Is this true? Is there really nothing else to megapixels other than printing size?

The ability to crop is (or can be) a biggie.  When I am shooting fast moving sports I often give myself a little extra margin in camera knowing that I can crop it later.

Indeed! And with wildlife, small birds, particularly, cropping gets the shot if you don't have a long enough lens.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 12:45:03 PM »
and let the "i expect 10fps and 61 point AF blahblah" spam begin.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 12:45:03 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2013, 12:49:17 PM »
I got a question please guys.

Most photographers I know don't put much stock into the number of megapixels, often citing printing size as the sole benefit.

Is this true? Is there really nothing else to megapixels other than printing size?

The ability to crop is (or can be) a biggie.  When I am shooting fast moving sports I often give myself a little extra margin in camera knowing that I can crop it later.

Indeed! And with wildlife, small birds, particularly, cropping gets the shot if you don't have a long enough lens.

This is often said, but rarely backup with proof, mainly because it isn't actually true.

Here is a same generation crop sensor at 100% and a cropped ff sensor upscaled to the same pixel number. Whilst there is a fraction more detail in the 7D image this was a bench test under ideal conditions; using AF, hand holding, higher iso etc, would all level the field. The 7D crop has over twice the pixels the 1Ds MkIII crop has!

Is there a good reason to own a crop camera? Sure, it might have better AF, it is easier to frame as the subject is magnified more in the viewfinder, the image you see is closer to the image you will get etc etc, but there is a mere fraction of difference in actual image resolution and even that small difference isn't realisable in real world shooting.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2013, 12:52:56 PM »
I'm curious about the 2 "pro" bodies - one of will be the high megapixel camera but the other will be?.....

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2013, 12:59:53 PM »
it's only a rumor. but still, probably 3D and dare i say 5D4? i would bet my money on one thing and that is that 70D is the last Canon's DSLR which uses Digic5 processor. 7DII and others definitely on Digic6, which is said to further help with noise control up to 6400 ISO.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2013, 01:03:39 PM »
After the 5D MK III, 7D II is the most popular camera that is creating as much buzz ... It'd be interesting to see what specs it releases with, I guess a lot would also depend on the release of D400 ... Good times.
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2013, 01:04:00 PM »
Good news. Looking forward to it.

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 01:04:34 PM »
I got a question please guys.

Most photographers I know don't put much stock into the number of megapixels, often citing printing size as the sole benefit.

Is this true? Is there really nothing else to megapixels other than printing size?

The ability to crop is (or can be) a biggie.  When I am shooting fast moving sports I often give myself a little extra margin in camera knowing that I can crop it later.

Indeed! And with wildlife, small birds, particularly, cropping gets the shot if you don't have a long enough lens.

This is often said, but rarely backup with proof, mainly because it isn't actually true.

Here is a same generation crop sensor at 100% and a cropped ff sensor upscaled to the same pixel number. Whilst there is a fraction more detail in the 7D image this was a bench test under ideal conditions; using AF, hand holding, higher iso etc, would all level the field. The 7D crop has over twice the pixels the 1Ds MkIII crop has!

Is there a good reason to own a crop camera? Sure, it might have better AF, it is easier to frame as the subject is magnified more in the viewfinder, the image you see is closer to the image you will get etc etc, but there is a mere fraction of difference in actual image resolution and even that small difference isn't realisable in real world shooting.

Yes, I believe there is! Cost, FPS, preference! I like a camera with a good FPS as I like shooting fast moving subjects. If I were to demand full frame only, then that leaves me very limited to the expensive end of the Canon range, which, for a poor NHS worker like me, is entirely unattainable without selling organs! ;)
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2013, 01:04:34 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2013, 01:08:09 PM »
I'm curious about the 2 "pro" bodies - one of will be the high megapixel camera but the other will be?.....
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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2013, 01:09:10 PM »
We’re told two possible sensors are in play for the EOS 7D Mark II, the 20.2mp sensor in the 70D and a 24.1mp sensor that has yet to see the light of day.

But I wouldn't be surprised if the 7D2 will have a 16-18 MP sensor. To be honest, I would even prefer a 16 MP 7D2 over a higher res one if this means better high ISO IQ, not to mention speed. After all, the 1Dx and the Nikon D4 are 18 and 16 MP, respectively, and none of their owners complain about this despite being both FF cameras, since both are geared for speed and highest IQ and those are the reasons for purchasing them, apart from build quality. According to rumors, the 7D2 is going to be an APS-C-sized pro body: would you guys complain for the lower res if it had 16 MP along with 2 or more stops better high ISO noise over the current 7D? I wouldn't. 16 MP is already plenty of detail for an APS-C sensor. The ability to crop? I think a 50% cropped 8 MP clean image is always better than an equally cropped 12 MP noisy one. I know I'm going to be criticized for what I'm saying, but hey, that's what I think...

We’re also told that 2 new “pro” bodies will arrive in 2014, and that doesn’t include the EOS 7D Mark II, which will be a pro specced APS-C camera.

Isn't a pro specced APS-C camera a pro body after all? Why couldn't the 7D2 be one of the two 2014 pro bodies? Weren't the 1D series cams pro bodies, though not FF?

and let the "i expect 10fps and 61 point AF blahblah" spam begin.

I expect at least 14 fps and 45 point AF, 61 are maybe too much for APS-C.   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II in 2014 [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2013, 01:09:10 PM »