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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #120 on: August 31, 2013, 02:37:23 AM »
It requires ONE actuation only. The resultant .CR2 file is processed via a program named cr2hdr.exe and produces a DNG file.

thanks for the reply Tron!

That is some pretty amazing technology then. As a stills shooter with a 5DIII it's only getting harder to resist trying ML now.
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« Reply #121 on: August 31, 2013, 03:09:08 AM »
If you have nothing new to offer!

I have had my own company since  1984
I think I have both the experience and knowledge so it is enough
working a lot in both USA/Canada and the rest of the world and got paid for my crappy shoots
and you?

Actually, I don't believe this. A casual search for Mikael Risedal comes up with nothing but page after page after page of meaningless noise comparisons between Canon and Nikon.

This guy is blinded by his total obsession with SNR. His only view of a photographic image is how much noise is hidden under the surface, and how much you can pull and push the data from that image in post before it cracks. He has no artistic interest in photography what so ever, and as such I very much doubt he ever had much to do with film.

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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #122 on: August 31, 2013, 03:34:04 AM »

I'd extend that to be "3 extra stops is always useful for every kind of photography or subject man has or ever will conceive of". ;P No one will dispute the notion that more DR is always useful for some kinds of photography. Mikael's issue is that he insists on pushing that point at every single opportunity, regardless of the circumstances.

Actually, while I concede it is sometimes useful, I certainly wouldn't agree that it is always useful. Sometimes the blown highlights or deep shadows are necesary for the look or feel the photographer is trying to portray. It depends whether you want a text book image or a piece of art.
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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #123 on: August 31, 2013, 04:05:19 AM »

I'd extend that to be "3 extra stops is always useful for every kind of photography or subject man has or ever will conceive of". ;P No one will dispute the notion that more DR is always useful for some kinds of photography. Mikael's issue is that he insists on pushing that point at every single opportunity, regardless of the circumstances.

Actually, while I concede it is sometimes useful, I certainly wouldn't agree that it is always useful. Sometimes the blown highlights or deep shadows are necesary for the look or feel the photographer is trying to portray. It depends whether you want a text book image or a piece of art.

You have made exactly the same point I made on another thread. I got a rude reply from Ankortwat telling me I didn't know what a tonal curve was for. No doubt you can expect the same.

And all this despite the very visual fact you can see from our pictures it is quite clear we know how to pp, though perhaps not how to produce noise.

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« Reply #124 on: August 31, 2013, 04:28:30 AM »

I'd extend that to be "3 extra stops is always useful for every kind of photography or subject man has or ever will conceive of". ;P No one will dispute the notion that more DR is always useful for some kinds of photography. Mikael's issue is that he insists on pushing that point at every single opportunity, regardless of the circumstances.

Actually, while I concede it is sometimes useful, I certainly wouldn't agree that it is always useful. Sometimes the blown highlights or deep shadows are necesary for the look or feel the photographer is trying to portray. It depends whether you want a text book image or a piece of art.

You have made exactly the same point I made on another thread. I got a rude reply from Ankortwat telling me I didn't know what a tonal curve was for. No doubt you can expect the same.

And all this despite the very visual fact you can see from our pictures it is quite clear we know how to pp, though perhaps not how to produce noise.

Did you misspell temple guy's name wrong on purpose?  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #125 on: August 31, 2013, 06:15:49 AM »
If I have nuances in shadow areas that I don´t want to see, I´ll black them out during post processing. If I have nuances in highlight areas, which I want to be totally white, I make them white in post processing.

If I would like to see details in shadow areas, but all I have is black, there is nothing I can do. if I want to see details in a highlight area, and all I have is white, there is nothing I can do.

Of course I would like to have higher DR. I want as much as possible and I cannot see how any future sensor would be criticized for having too much DR.

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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #126 on: August 31, 2013, 08:33:53 AM »

I'd extend that to be "3 extra stops is always useful for every kind of photography or subject man has or ever will conceive of". ;P No one will dispute the notion that more DR is always useful for some kinds of photography. Mikael's issue is that he insists on pushing that point at every single opportunity, regardless of the circumstances.

Actually, while I concede it is sometimes useful, I certainly wouldn't agree that it is always useful. Sometimes the blown highlights or deep shadows are necesary for the look or feel the photographer is trying to portray. It depends whether you want a text book image or a piece of art.

You have made exactly the same point I made on another thread. I got a rude reply from Ankortwat telling me I didn't know what a tonal curve was for. No doubt you can expect the same.

And all this despite the very visual fact you can see from our pictures it is quite clear we know how to pp, though perhaps not how to produce noise.
I've had similar responses in the past, doesn't change my thinking though :P. I photograph how I want to (or at least try), not how someone else thinks I should, be that dynamic range, depth of field or anything else. I sometimes get criticism for not having enough depth of field (especially in macros), it doesn't change my thinking though. I'm trying to develop my own noticeable style, I can't do that by doing what everyone else does. Yes there are certain things I can do in PP, but every extra bit I need to do in PP, means just that little bit more time for each image, time I don't often have. Plus I'm a bit of a purist and like to get as much as I can in the shot at the time. It's a bit of a challenge to see hnow much of the effect I want I can get at the time of shooting. It isn't always possible, but the more I push boundaries, the more I learn as a photographer and artist.
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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #126 on: August 31, 2013, 08:33:53 AM »

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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #127 on: August 31, 2013, 02:47:01 PM »
Fyi: This Magic Lantern dual_iso module doesn't only work on 5d3 anymore, but in the latest build on:

* 500d, 550d, 600d, 700d
* 50d, 60d
* 7d
* 5d2, 5d3

I just tried it on my 60d and I'd suggest for everyone to give it a try, there are hardly any artifacts at all in the latest release and it will make you realize how much of a difference it makes if 2-3 stops of dr are conjured out of thin air - I'm more convinced than ever that at least to me dr on my 60d's sensor is a limiting factor.

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Re: Magic Lantern Improves 5D Mark III Dynamic Range to 14 Stops
« Reply #127 on: August 31, 2013, 02:47:01 PM »