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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2013, 07:42:07 AM »
As a value for money proposition, the Dell U-Series panels are hard to ignore. Absolutely stay away from the Dell cheapies...they may be OK for office use but will disappoint for photo editing work. We're almost a Dell U-Series case study here. In our studio we have three Dell 24 inch, one Dell 27 inch and one Dell 30 inch. They're all good as gold, calibrate nicely and tend not to "drift" even over long periods.

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2013, 07:42:07 AM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2013, 08:13:06 AM »
As a value for money proposition, the Dell U-Series panels are hard to ignore. Absolutely stay away from the Dell cheapies...they may be OK for office use but will disappoint for photo editing work. We're almost a Dell U-Series case study here. In our studio we have three Dell 24 inch, one Dell 27 inch and one Dell 30 inch. They're all good as gold, calibrate nicely and tend not to "drift" even over long periods.

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So out of the two I should go for the U2413 over the U2412M? If the calibration does not “drift” over long periods I may get the monitor first and then buy the X-rite i1 Display Pro like a month after. Where is the best place you would recommend to buy the U2413 from?

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2013, 09:01:59 AM »
I use HP zr2440w monitors.  Works great for me.  I also agree that the best is the hp dreamcolor, I just can't afford that one. :)
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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2013, 09:10:01 AM »
Quote from: DFM link=topic=15988.msg293550#msg293550 date=
Bear in mind that with a Windows platform, unless you have two graphics cards you can't calibrate the monitors in a dual-screen desktop separately.

This is misinformation. I can calibrate two monitors separately with my spyder 3 elite and it applies two different ICC profiles to each monitor at startup. One is a Mac monitor, and the other is a dell Ultrahsharp and they produce the exact same colors.

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2013, 09:14:43 AM »
Where is the best place you would recommend to buy the U2413 from?

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Buying from Dell direct is always a good option, however PC Buy It seem to always have great prices. I bought my monitor from them, and have no complaints.

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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2013, 11:17:08 AM »
Quote from: DFM link=topic=15988.msg293550#msg293550 date=
Bear in mind that with a Windows platform, unless you have two graphics cards you can't calibrate the monitors in a dual-screen desktop separately.

This is misinformation. I can calibrate two monitors separately with my spyder 3 elite and it applies two different ICC profiles to each monitor at startup. One is a Mac monitor, and the other is a dell Ultrahsharp and they produce the exact same colors.

See http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1513&Action=support&SupportID=3507

As it says, you need two physically-separate GPUs in order for Windows to see the displays as different hardware devices and allow individual choices for the ICC profile (e.g. two individual cards or a 2-head Quadro). You also have to use Extended Desktop mode (Cloned Desktop only uses the ICC profile from the primary screen).

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013, 11:29:17 AM »
Quote from: DFM link=topic=15988.msg293550#msg293550 date=
Bear in mind that with a Windows platform, unless you have two graphics cards you can't calibrate the monitors in a dual-screen desktop separately.

This is misinformation. I can calibrate two monitors separately with my spyder 3 elite and it applies two different ICC profiles to each monitor at startup. One is a Mac monitor, and the other is a dell Ultrahsharp and they produce the exact same colors.

See http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1513&Action=support&SupportID=3507

As it says, you need two physically-separate GPUs in order for Windows to see the displays as different hardware devices and allow individual choices for the ICC profile (e.g. two individual cards or a 2-head Quadro). You also have to use Extended Desktop mode (Cloned Desktop only uses the ICC profile from the primary screen).
This falls under the "it depends" category.  It depends on your version of Windows and it depends on your display hardware.

If you're running Windows XP, you probably will have to go the dual card route.  Vista/7/8 have increasing support.  Odds are if you're running 7 or 8, you can do different color profiles for monitors with a single video card.  Don't know if that's true for Intel embedded graphics, though.

Anyone who has bought a laptop in the past few years with a discrete video card and an Intel chip is probably using two video cards when using dual monitors (Dell L702x, for instance) anyway, so it's a non-issue.

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013, 11:29:17 AM »

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2013, 12:03:37 PM »
Quote from: DFM link=topic=15988.msg293550#msg293550 date=
Bear in mind that with a Windows platform, unless you have two graphics cards you can't calibrate the monitors in a dual-screen desktop separately.

This is misinformation. I can calibrate two monitors separately with my spyder 3 elite and it applies two different ICC profiles to each monitor at startup. One is a Mac monitor, and the other is a dell Ultrahsharp and they produce the exact same colors.

See http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1513&Action=support&SupportID=3507

As it says, you need two physically-separate GPUs in order for Windows to see the displays as different hardware devices and allow individual choices for the ICC profile (e.g. two individual cards or a 2-head Quadro). You also have to use Extended Desktop mode (Cloned Desktop only uses the ICC profile from the primary screen).

You are sadly mistaken my friend. Two ICC profiles for each monitor on my single graphics card. I could put as many monitor's with different ICC profiles as long as my card has ports.
« Last Edit: July 22, 2013, 12:07:13 PM by RLPhoto »

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2013, 01:39:24 PM »
I had a dell 2412 ...was good enough...
un-cal-ed

got a dell new 30"
lovely pretty close  un-cal-ed


I HEAR the new 2413  stuff is good

stretch for the 30" if you can

really nice to have some space



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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2013, 05:11:04 PM »
I had a dell 2412 ...was good enough...
un-cal-ed

got a dell new 30"
lovely pretty close  un-cal-ed


I HEAR the new 2413  stuff is good

stretch for the 30" if you can

really nice to have some space

So what is the price difference between the 24" -27" and 30"?
This new monitor will sit alongside my current 23" Samsung monitor on what is a decent size desk but going any bigger than 24" might not be a good idea for me.
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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2013, 06:28:15 PM »
Maybe you can manage to get a NEC PA24 for that? Wide gamut and a 14bit internal 3D LUT (replicates sRGB gamuts even better than almost all sRGB monitors, all internally, so it works with everything that needs to go back to sRGB too, even (mostly) non-color managed stuff like movies, tv, games, desktop).

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2013, 06:49:36 PM »
Is the Apple Cinema Display a good photo editing monitor?

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2013, 06:16:55 AM »
I think I will go with the U2413, I feel any bigger than 24” in my room will be too big. I will then buy the i1 Display Pro at a later date.
Also with the 27” I am reading that there is an issue with light bleeding. But then again with the U2413 I am reading a problem with ghosting, but I think this might happen when playing games so I guess it’s not a problem for me.

I have two choices (See links below):
Buy from Dell for £417 and if anything goes wrong I can deal with it directly through them.
OR
By it from Amazon for £395 (I take it it’s the exact same monitor just cheaper than going through Dell’s own website).

What would you do?


accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&sku=754744

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-UltraSharp-U2413-PremierColor-Monitor/dp/B00B0VQYBM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374568814&sr=8-1&keywords=Dell+UltraSharp+U2413
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2013, 11:04:52 AM »
I've been looking to replace an ageing Dell 2007FP 20" non-widescreen monitor with at first one, but eventually two 24" monitors. Have been happy with the 2007FP so see no reason not to go for a Dell again. The only thing that annoys me a little is the anti-glare coating on mine which i beleive is fairly aggressive.

The Reviews on TFT Central suggest that the AG coating on the U2413 is a much nicer lighter coating as seems to be the trend with new panels but I'm not sure I need (or want) a wide gamut monitor. The U2412 would probably meet my needs nicely but the harder AG coating kind of puts me off, not being able to see the model 'in the flesh' so I don't know how it compares to my exisitng one in that respect.

TFT Central and othere have picked up that there may be some new screens from Dell shortly: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/29.htm#dell_u_series   They also have a review of the Asus PA248QJ due soon that might be interesting...

For the sake of a few pounds, I'd buy direct from Dell.
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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2013, 04:17:36 PM »

So what is the price difference between the 24" -27" and 30"?
This new monitor will sit alongside my current 23" Samsung monitor on what is a decent size desk but going any bigger than 24" might not be a good idea for me.
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yes yes
there is some logic to staying at/near 24"...with two mons
keep that thought...

a very large ......and a medium mon  dont mix well in the dual mon setup

I believe the NEW dell 30" was about $1100, the 27 dell at that time was $750-800 I think...
and whatever the newest 24" is ...it is way cheaper / even with IPS and better qual/features...

having 2 mons.... seems logical to have two (about) the same size..
I left that place and just went for one large one..
gave my girlfriend the old 24"
and I missed it after 5 mins....it was a great bit of hardware...lasting thru 3 CPUs

maybe the newest / (researched) ...best.... 24" dell is  ...an inexpensive and good option..
I gave up calibrating mons because I never print and just shoot to see what I have... just for my eyes

but if 'cal' is in the cards ...then that is also a cost...maybe on the 24" for sure
I am not a reference here...

except that DELL was always a very good value... and still seems to be ... 24-30"

just my thought

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Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
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