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1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« on: September 10, 2010, 03:18:34 AM »

Wowzers

A good source and provider of information has finally chimed in on the 1Ds Mark IV.


Everything the source has been told says there will be no 1Ds Mark IV until late 2011 or early 2012. No matter what Nikon does.


What we will see first is a new 5D series camera in the 28mp range, but not until 2011.


The word “radical” was used to describe the changes we’ll see in the next 1Ds.


I am giving this CR2 for the moment, I’m starting to believe it.


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1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« on: September 10, 2010, 03:18:34 AM »

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 04:03:39 AM »
Yup. Finally some meaningful info.
I guess all those 'sources' that 'predicted' a 1Ds4 at Photokina can safely be written off  ;D  ;D

So, which cameras will Canon refresh next and in what order.

The 5D classic was updated in its third year and the XXD series has been on an year and a half refresh cycle.
Following the same schedule, the 7D should see a refresh next spring and the 5DII next autumn.

Let the new rumors begin :).

Canon has been very tight lipped this past year, though.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 04:05:30 AM by x-vision »

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 04:04:34 AM »
This is very bad...
I hoped 1Ds to be released now before Photokina.
If not then the 5D mk3 to be released in early 2011, not in June-September.

Very bad for Canon to not have fast FF body for sports and with good video!

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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 04:29:13 AM »
This is very bad...
Very bad for Canon to not have fast FF body for sports and with good video!

Just assuming that the majority of sport users use a crop of some kind 1.6/1.3 for their sports and the 7d or 1dm4 fit that bill.

I would also assume the 7d wouldn't be on the same cycle as the xxD but the 5d as from their recent release of the 60d it seems the 7d is more geared towards the prosumer market with the 5d series so maybe 2.5-3 years?

I got a gut feeling they may be trying to move into medium format with the 1ds series, but I'm not sure if that makes quite much sense economically and with the limited number of lenses there would be to use.

In regards of the possible upcoming press release, it'd be funny to see a stripped down T2i or T2 version like the XS with a 24-70 IS or 14-24 lens attached to it.  However since the recent lens press releases have mainly been all EF with the very slight exception of the fisheye, maybe the other lens release will be some ef-s 30/35 prime or that supposed 60mm 2.8 IS II macro lens?
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 04:36:39 AM by Canon 14-24 »

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 05:35:20 AM »
I need a FF sport body for extreme sports photography. Usually shooting in the range of 14-24mm. 15mm fish-eye and 24/1.4 are perfect. Also for video, not only for photos.

With 5d mk2 I'm missing half of the movements and I don't want to buy Nikon!

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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2010, 06:03:52 AM »
Very strange when the 5D mk3 would be released sooner than the 1Ds mk4.

I also want the a 'afforable' FF that can keep tracking my active son (running).
I would have bought the 1D mk4 if it was FF.

Nikon-guys must be laughing.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 06:06:26 AM by MadButcher »

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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2010, 06:20:44 AM »
I still hope for the announcement before Photokina  ;D

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2010, 07:37:24 AM »
<p>What we will see first is a new 5D series camera in the 28mp range, but not until 2011.</p>

This is music to my ears (except that I'd like to see it sooner, of course).  I want to move to FF, but I need a better AF than found in the original 5D, which Canon chose not to update for the 5DII.  I'd have been tempted by a 1DsIV but reluctant to fork out that much $.  So, a 5DIII with an improved AF (Canon, please please please don't keep using the same 5 year old AF!!) would be perfect.  If it comes out before a 1DsIV and Canon keeps the antiquated AF system, of does something equally dumb like eliminating AF Microadjustment, then it's more waiting for the 1DsIV. 
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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2010, 07:41:14 AM »
Guys, 1Ds IV is not coming at Photokina, probably 2011
Other rumours say a second DSLR is coming before Photokina -> this is the cheap FF that's coming!
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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2010, 07:47:11 AM »
Guys, 1Ds IV is not coming at Photokina, probably 2011
Other rumours say a second DSLR is coming before Photokina -> this is the cheap FF that's coming!
In Germany one would say: your word in God's ear. ;)

As I don't believe that this is happening, I still think that maybe ther will be the 2000D...

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 07:47:20 AM »
Very strange when the 5D mk3 would be released sooner than the 1Ds mk4.

Nikon-guys must be laughing.

Maybe instead of 1Ds/5D paired technology we will see more joint 5D/7D developments....5Dm3 borrowing stuff from the current 7D and future 7Dm2 borrowing again from 5Dm3.....etc etc.

Nope, we are not laughing, we need canon to keep the pressure on nikon  ;D  and the other way around ofcourse.


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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2010, 07:53:14 AM »
I need a FF sport body for extreme sports photography. Usually shooting in the range of 14-24mm. 15mm fish-eye and 24/1.4 are perfect. Also for video, not only for photos.

With 5d mk2 I'm missing half of the movements and I don't want to buy Nikon!

You wouldn't be shooting skateboarding tricks, would you? Anyway, I need a FF low light specialist like a D700 or, better yet, a D3S and I have too much Canon stuff to switch. I've always wondered why studio cameras need to be built like proverbial tanks so a 28MP 5DMkIII makes sense. I wouldn't buy one, but it makes sense.

As for a "radical" 1DsMkIV, one fantasy might be the merged 1D with an EVF and a 4FPS, 50MP sensor that can be binned down to 12.5MP and 16FPS. 12.5MP also makes sense for 4K video but the data rate to the memory card goes through the roof.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 08:07:23 AM by Bob Howland »

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2010, 09:28:10 AM »
Such a pain, that means I'm stuck working with the hideous H2 system for another year. I can't stand that camera, it is such a poorly thought out and made POS. I was really hoping for the 1Ds IV to give me the quality required to satisfy all my clients in a camera I actually enjoy using.

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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2010, 10:42:07 AM »
If it usual for canon to not do so much for so long? How small is their R&D team for SLR's.
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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2010, 11:32:14 AM »
This doesn't surprise me at all, as the world economy continues to turn around and disposable income goes up Canon needs sales to fund R&D for the next generation.  The 1Ds has never sold in great numbers and releasing a new $6 - $8K body that will NOT sell in great numbers probably doesn't make financial sense right now.  Releasing a high performance, FF body would provide entry into a market where Canon isn't currently competing.  The 1DIV comes at too high of a price point and competes with more expensive Nikon bodies so there is room here for another body to gain some market share.

I think we just might see the mythical 3D finally released to fill this niche with the 5DIII taking on the high MP "studio" duties until the next 1Ds is ready.  I believe Canon wants the 1DsIV to crash the MF party where people are willing to pay a lot more for the ultimate in IQ.  The 3D has been talked about for years, but it makes sense to release it now as it would complete Canon's advanced amateur, semi-pro lineup very nicely.  7D high performance crop, 5D ultimate FF IQ for studio work, 3D fast & FF 16-18MP for the "all of the above" shooters like myself.  Canon would literally have something for everyone who wants to step up from the Rebels and upgrade their aging XXD cameras, many of these people myself included are considering the dark side because it seems that Canon wants us to buy 2 cameras to shoot everything we like.  I still don't know what purpose the 60D serves, it seems to exist only to fill the price gap between the T2i and 7D.

The 1 series remains the ultimate workhorse with the best weather sealing, fastest FPS, best AF and great IQ, but also a niche camera.

Of course this is all wild speculation on my part, but it would allow Canon to compete on every front.  People disagree with me but I'll bet Canon execs get a little heartburn every time they hear about the D700 and it's replacement, its a market they could have been dominating for years....
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Re: 1Ds Mark IV in 2011 or 2012 [CR2]
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