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70D what do you think?
« on: July 24, 2013, 05:15:04 AM »
Everybody is talking about the AF of the new 70D but will this sensor also bring us much better IQ?

For landscapes i don't need the AF that much but better IQ will be nice.

For what i have seen the 70D example pictures looks nice. But it's hard to compare a picture from a 70d with another from a 60d. I need the same object shoot with both DSLRs with same lens to compare.

Are there any example pictures from 70d vs 60d on full size?

I know the Lens makes the most of the IQ but i just wondering if there are any differences?
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70D what do you think?
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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 08:23:17 AM »
gee, I don't know. Maybe post a question and seek an answer in 25 other 70D threads?
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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2013, 03:12:42 AM »
gee, I don't know. Maybe post a question and seek an answer in 25 other 70D threads?

Well i'll give it a try ;)
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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 12:59:48 PM »
I doubt there would be much difference in the IQ between the 60D and 70D. The 70D will probably have less noise at higher ISO's, but IQ is normally down to the quality of the lens.
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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2013, 01:51:25 PM »
There is little difference in IQ for any DSLR at ISO 100.  You are buying features and hype.
 
For landscapes,  more MP will give you more detail, but as MP count goes up, so does the difficulty in actually getting that extra bit of resolution.  There are some who do very well with high MP cameras, but the average photographer is not obsessed with a incremental increase in resolution, the more important elements such as composition and subject, lighting, DR, etc put and IQ improvements far down the list.   In fact, I don't even know how to measure something hypothetical like IQ that only exists in the mind of a photographer and is different for each of them.  We can measure several parameters, and they trade off against each other, but IQ?  That sounds like something DXO would assign a number to ;)

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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2013, 05:04:23 PM »
Not that video again...... Please??!!!

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 07:38:44 PM »
I doubt there would be much difference in the IQ between the 60D and 70D.

There isn't, here is a comparison of raw studio samples I just posted: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=16248.msg299011#msg299011

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2013, 09:07:54 PM »
I'd rather get a 7D and a 5D mkii for around 2000 total (both used). 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2013, 03:53:29 AM »
There is little difference in IQ for any DSLR at ISO 100.  You are buying features and hype.
 
For landscapes,  more MP will give you more detail, but as MP count goes up, so does the difficulty in actually getting that extra bit of resolution.  There are some who do very well with high MP cameras, but the average photographer is not obsessed with a incremental increase in resolution, the more important elements such as composition and subject, lighting, DR, etc put and IQ improvements far down the list.   In fact, I don't even know how to measure something hypothetical like IQ that only exists in the mind of a photographer and is different for each of them.  We can measure several parameters, and they trade off against each other, but IQ?  That sounds like something DXO would assign a number to ;)

There is a pretty huge difference at ISO100. That is actually where cameras differ the most since they are all pretty solid at high ISO now. But at low ISO some have one to THREE AND A HALF stops better dynamic range than others. For many scenes that doesn't matter at all, but for many potential scenes it could.

70D RAW file appears to show the same old DR as Canon has been stuck with since 2007 :(. I hope it is not their new process sensor!

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2013, 04:31:04 AM »
70D RAW file appears to show the same old DR as Canon has been stuck with since 2007 :(. I hope it is not their new process sensor!
How do you conclude that the 70D RAW files have the same DR as older Canon Cameras? Maybe I misunderstand the concept of DR, but I think to measure the DR you need to how light was when the picture was taken; a piece of information that is not included in the RAW file.

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2013, 05:20:51 AM »
How do you conclude that the 70D RAW files have the same DR as older Canon Cameras? Maybe I misunderstand the concept of DR, but I think to measure the DR you need to how light was when the picture was taken; a piece of information that is not included in the RAW file.

But you can compare studio samples of the same scene with the exact same lighting that are taken with different sensors and then see how much of the histogram is covered. This isn't a 100% valid method because it doesn't cover highlight recovery, but if Canon would suddenly have gone Nikon and added a big deal of dr it would be noticeable.

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2013, 08:34:28 AM »
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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2013, 09:44:24 AM »
My Problems with the Canon 70D

You guys are much too harsh.  This gentleman's erudite review with his extensive vocabulary after spending many days actually handling this camera is of great value.  No wait, I was thinking of someone else.  I must be confused.......

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Re: 70D what do you think?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2013, 09:59:32 AM »
If landscape is your thing, 6D or 5D II might be a better choice. I'm sure 6D or 5D II will have MUCH better IQ.

Video shooter will enjoy 70D more.......

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Re: 70D what do you think?
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