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An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« on: July 25, 2013, 04:14:38 PM »

It exists, but will it come to market?

We have confirmed that a test camera with around 80mp is definitely in the wild. A few things to note about the camera. It’s apparently in an EOS-1 body and has a larger than 3.2″ LCD on the back. The camera also apparently shoots at a very high frame rate.


What we can’t confirm is if this test mule is actually going to be a consumer product. We imagine there are various sensors currently out there.¬†We’re told via a third party that Canon could announce this new EOS-1 before the end of 2013, however it would not be shipping until 2014.


More to come…


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An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« on: July 25, 2013, 04:14:38 PM »

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2013, 04:20:11 PM »
Exciting! With a high FPS you say? I wonder how big that buffer is or what they're using for a memory card. 1.8" SATA SSD? mSATA SSD style?
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2013, 04:20:57 PM »
It has to be confirmed whether the reported 80MP figure is real - or whether this is a 40MP sensor with DualPixel technology.

The resolution needed for 8K video is ~39MP.
So, it makes a lot of sense, actually, if Canon is testing an 8K sensor ... which would be 40MP.

This could get lost in translation and be reported as 80MP, though - if DualPixel technology is used.

Honestly, 80MP doesn't make much sense, except for bragging rights.
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2013, 04:21:47 PM »
Sweet.  Time to start saving those pennies, just in case. About 1.2 million of them ought to do the trick.
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2013, 04:23:20 PM »
I don't believe Canon would dream of really putting an 80 mp camera into the market just yet. These companies all drip feed technology to the consumer: I'm sure we'll see something in the resign of 35 - 40 first.

Nikon jumped the consumer grade FF from twelve to thirty six in a bid to grap more market share of that sector.

Didn't work.

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2013, 04:23:38 PM »
I'd have thought a full frame camera with a 'very high frame rate' would be a 1D X replacement. It's a bit early for that, and 75+MP at 12fps or so is a bigger jump in throughput than you'd expect from one generation to the next.

Unless very high frame rate means more than 3 FPS? 4 possibly?

Even it's foveon, the raw file will still contain every single one of those pixels, so were talking about the same amount of data as a 75+MP bayer sensor.
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 04:31:37 PM »
I'd have thought a full frame camera with a 'very high frame rate' would be a 1D X replacement.

To really shine in the video world, such a camera could maybe do 8K video @ 60fps.
This is an extremely high frame rate, given the high resolution.

Doesn't mean that the frame rate for stills will be high.

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2013, 04:32:03 PM »
Canon has shown signs of wanting to jump their technology.  The new sensor and load of features in the 70D was one hint.  While I'd also be surprised to see the camera, it just might happen.  They want to be able to charge 10K or more for a body that no one else has.

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2013, 04:56:38 PM »

"SuperCamera - Able to fill entire hard drives with a single burst."

Ok, my i7 w/LSI RAID can handle that :)

Seriously, I really want the high MP for Landscape; and I suppose th Commercial Photographers also want it.  Maybe some wedding guys.  But I am not sure we need the high frame rate.  The Sports guys shooting for SI probably want turn-around time.

I'd be very happy with 70 MP+ at maybe 5 fps.  With the savings I might be able to muster a 1Dx for the sports shoots :)
 

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2013, 05:06:09 PM »
I don't believe Canon would dream of really putting an 80 mp camera into the market just yet. These companies all drip feed technology to the consumer: I'm sure we'll see something in the resign of 35 - 40 first.

Nikon jumped the consumer grade FF from twelve to thirty six in a bid to grap more market share of that sector.

Didn't work.

It did work !
I am using Canon since 1974, even though back then Minolta was the better choise, I liked the canon lenses more. (and still do)
But now, I had to buy a Nikon, not only for the pixels, but for (there it is again...) the dynamic range.
I am NOT a high iso shooter, I need the dynamic range.

I know what is coming next......
But, with 19 Canon camera's and over 40 Canon lenses, you can not say I am not a Canonfan is it ?
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Why not ? It is outdated, ancient, it is antique, it is a fossil !!
For the same reason I dont use my 1DS3 not very much anymore, and I won't certainly not buy a 1DX.


So...Are they selling a 70mp camera soon...
Well... I hope they do...and I hope they will have another sensor-technology as well.

And I will be a very happy Canon-user again...
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2013, 05:12:47 PM »
It has to be confirmed whether the reported 80MP figure is real - or whether this is a 40MP sensor with DualPixel technology.

The resolution needed for 8K video is ~39MP.
So, it makes a lot of sense, actually, if Canon is testing an 8K sensor ... which would be 40MP.

This could get lost in translation and be reported as 80MP, though - if DualPixel technology is used.

Honestly, 80MP doesn't make much sense, except for bragging rights.

That's EXACTLY what I also mentioned before.

However aside from DualPixel and VIDEO improvments I still am waiting for a better than average ISO & DR. Alternatives with better results are out there and they are CHEAPER!

Additionally after the built in Wi-Fi &GPS an internal SSD & USB 3.0 are the next features that would would bring a difference and leadership for the years to come.

Sweet.  Time to start saving those pennies, just in case. About 1.2 million of them ought to do the trick.

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2013, 05:17:39 PM »
I don't know, if I ever missed the high number of pixels, I am quite content with the 18 to 23 Megapixels. but I shurely would try to get the money ready, if this animal should ever make it to the market. Interesting news!

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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2013, 05:28:21 PM »

"SuperCamera - Able to fill entire hard drives with a single burst."

Ok, my i7 w/LSI RAID can handle that :)

Seriously, I really want the high MP for Landscape; and I suppose th Commercial Photographers also want it.  Maybe some wedding guys.  But I am not sure we need the high frame rate.  The Sports guys shooting for SI probably want turn-around time.

I'd be very happy with 70 MP+ at maybe 5 fps.  With the savings I might be able to muster a 1Dx for the sports shoots :)
 



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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2013, 05:33:36 PM »
Sweet.  Time to start saving those pennies, just in case. About 1.2 million of them ought to do the trick.
Up here in Canada, the penny has been phased out.... I can't save up 1,200,000 of them so I guess I can't get this new camera. Pity, a 75 Megapixel camera would have been great for taking facebook photos.....
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Re: An Update on the 75+mp Camera in the Wild
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2013, 05:39:37 PM »

"SuperCamera - Able to fill entire hard drives with a single burst."

Ok, my i7 w/LSI RAID can handle that :)

Seriously, I really want the high MP for Landscape; and I suppose th Commercial Photographers also want it.  Maybe some wedding guys.  But I am not sure we need the high frame rate.  The Sports guys shooting for SI probably want turn-around time.

I'd be very happy with 70 MP+ at maybe 5 fps.  With the savings I might be able to muster a 1Dx for the sports shoots :)
 



Haha, when I began using photoshop, I bought a really BIG hard-drive...about 1600 megabytes....I did not think I would ever fill this....

Double HaHa, The first hard drive I bought was $10,000 for a 10Mbyte drive (14 inch platters, rackmount) and I have a couple dozen 4Mbyte compact flash cards...
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2013, 05:39:37 PM »