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Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« on: July 27, 2013, 04:51:16 AM »
Hey guize,

so a girl was just asking me, what dslr I could recommend her.
She tried out a 60D and found it too bulky in her lovely tiny hands...

Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

I think she does not need a dslr because something mirrorless might just do that as good.
But because I dont own a mirrorless camera i thought i might ask you lot!


Any recommendations?

Thank you!

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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2013, 05:25:57 AM »
Hey guize,

so a girl was just asking me, what dslr I could recommend her.
She tried out a 60D and found it too bulky in her lovely tiny hands...

Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

I think she does not need a dslr because something mirrorless might just do that as good.
But because I dont own a mirrorless camera i thought i might ask you lot!


Any recommendations?

Thank you!

EOS-M is too sluggish on the focus for "sports" or people. The only two mirrorless models I'd recommend right now would be the Olypmus OM-D EM-5 or the Fuji XE-1, though the latter is also a little slow to focus if she's actually looking to follow the action. If you can find a Pentax K-01 right now, too, it would be an awesome price for a camera that actually looks good at top ISO if she's using auto all the time. Works with every Pentax lens ever, I'd check with any pawn shop anywhere for deals on telephoto lenses that would work with that.
As soon as Canon puts their dual-pixel tech into a mirrorless I'd recommend that in a second, but for the time being they are not the company to look at if you're thinking non-SLR (G1X excluded).
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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2013, 05:31:26 AM »
Hey guize,

so a girl was just asking me, what dslr I could recommend her.
She tried out a 60D and found it too bulky in her lovely tiny hands...

Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

I think she does not need a dslr because something mirrorless might just do that as good.
But because I dont own a mirrorless camera i thought i might ask you lot!


Any recommendations?

Thank you!

have a look at the SL1/100D. smallest dSLR.

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2013, 05:42:35 AM »
Canon EOS SL1/100D looks like a great choice.  This is the smallest DSLR there is - just 404 grams body with battery and SD card.  A mirrorless camera may not be the right choice for sport due to slow contrast detection autofocus (CDAF) that these cameras have. DSLRs have much faster phase detection auto focus (PDAF).

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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 06:38:38 AM »
It depends how serious she is, if she is really into her photography she should probably try the 60D out for a bit more. I know a few small girls who have no issues using a 70D + 70-200F2.8 etc with their tiny hands, it could be something she is not used to.

Otherwise as people have already suggested the 100D or M could be good options.

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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2013, 06:43:50 AM »
Canon EOS SL1/100D looks like a great choice.  This is the smallest DSLR there is - just 404 grams body with battery and SD card.  A mirrorless camera may not be the right choice for sport due to slow contrast detection autofocus (CDAF) that these cameras have. DSLRs have much faster phase detection auto focus (PDAF).

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Any mirrorless camera is going to be too slow for sports.  The SL1/100D is good option.
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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2013, 07:06:09 AM »
Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

That just about covers everything, doesn't it :-p ?

Unfortunately the smaller the camera, the less features and usability it has with Canon - this is not a given, but simply their marketing is. The first camera that was downsized w/o loosing too many features was the full frame 6d which is also 60d-size, actually the 6d is your best image quality bet for everything except sports.

Maybe you should really go with a tiny SL1 until it's determined what is actually shot, my experience is that the aversion to bulk/weight somewhat lessens with usage and once you discover what you're getting for it in photographic freedom.

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2013, 12:33:31 PM »
I'm a woman with small hands so I'll respond from that perspective. If the 60D is too bulky for the OP's friend, and she asked for suggestions about DSLRs, then please take her at her word that she would like a DSLR and suggest she try the new SL1/100D or one of the Rebels.

And to the poster who noticed other women with small hands using larger cameras and lenses with ease, and suggested your friend try out the 60D some more, I'm going to observe that of course the OP's friend could use a 60D if she wanted to. But there is no "need" for her to get used to anything unless she want to. And, from the OP's letter, it sounds like she doesn't want to get used to the 60D--she's asking for some other suggestions.

I have both a T1i and a 6D. I love them both. I especially love the enhanced capabilities that the 6D provides me. It's my go to camera for many occasions. But, it's significantly bigger and heavier than my T1i. If I'm going to be out all day with a camera and I want a DSLR, and I don't need the 6D's capabilities, I'll take my T1i because it's lighter and fits my hands better.




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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 01:18:04 PM »
thanks for the input, gents!


I just returned from trying out various cams with her and she will most likely go with the 700D because "it looks nice".

Well - she wants to try to get into photography and I think she is interested in learning about arperture etc.


so i guess a xxxD is a good entry and as good as most mirrorless systems to start with!

Thanks again!


ninja edit:

and may I add you helped me getting an invitation for dinner and then some...!

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 10:38:25 PM »
so a girl was just asking me, what dslr I could recommend her.
She tried out a 60D and found it too bulky in her lovely tiny hands...

Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

I think she does not need a dslr because something mirrorless might just do that as good.
But because I dont own a mirrorless camera i thought i might ask you lot!

The old addage is spend your money on lenses.  How much does she have to spend... because I would push her in the direction of a used t1i and maybe a 15-85.  15x1.6=24mm on a full frame and for me that is pretty dang good. 

If she has a bit more cash to spend, I'd suggest a 430ex ii and learning how to bounce off walls for people.  At 85mm and 5.6 aperture... she might be able to get a nice bokeh along with nice side lighting indoors. 

As for sports... well... 40D maybe... but it is the same size at the 60D... so that won't work.  Then the t4i.  The issue with sports is that people often will spray and pray where they will hold down the shutter button until the buffer fills.   But if she is content with predicting when the action is about to happen, she can do well with a t1i or t2i...

Heck... you can do well with a Canon XS if given the opportunity and knowledge.

Also... go to youtube and look up cheap camera challenge.  I found it to be just great entertainment. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 10:40:40 PM »
Hey guize,

so a girl was just asking me, what dslr I could recommend her.
She tried out a 60D and found it too bulky in her lovely tiny hands...

Main focus should be on landscapes, people, "sports".

I think she does not need a dslr because something mirrorless might just do that as good.
But because I dont own a mirrorless camera i thought i might ask you lot!


Any recommendations?

Thank you!

have a look at the SL1/100D. smallest dSLR.

I tried that.  I have average hands if not even small for a man and I thought the sl1 was WAY too small.  Just to hold it, I had to push my pectorals all the way together.  It was VERY awkward... but of course I'm used to a 5d mkiii... so that would explain much of it.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 10:44:41 PM »
thanks for the input, gents!


I just returned from trying out various cams with her and she will most likely go with the 700D because "it looks nice".

Well - she wants to try to get into photography and I think she is interested in learning about arperture etc.


so i guess a xxxD is a good entry and as good as most mirrorless systems to start with!

Thanks again!


ninja edit:

and may I add you helped me getting an invitation for dinner and then some...!

Not to harp, but what lens is she going to use.  For video the stms will do just fine, but for stills, it is still a good deal lacking. 
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XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100 f/2.8L->85mm f/1.8 USM->135L -> 8mm ->100L

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 05:22:09 AM »
thanks for the input, gents!


I just returned from trying out various cams with her and she will most likely go with the 700D because "it looks nice".

Well - she wants to try to get into photography and I think she is interested in learning about arperture etc.


so i guess a xxxD is a good entry and as good as most mirrorless systems to start with!

Thanks again!


ninja edit:

and may I add you helped me getting an invitation for dinner and then some...!

Not to harp, but what lens is she going to use.  For video the stms will do just fine, but for stills, it is still a good deal lacking.


I told her she has to decide wether she wants to do video with it or not. I suggested her a tamron 17-50 for starters as she can resell that lens for a good price here and maybe add a 50/1.8 for portraits.

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Re: Buying advice -> 60D too bulky
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2013, 05:22:09 AM »