April 18, 2014, 05:53:26 AM

Author Topic: Canon EVIL (EIS)  (Read 26217 times)

Cire

  • Guest
Canon EVIL (EIS)
« on: September 10, 2010, 01:50:57 PM »
Electro Image System (EIS)

sensor : CMOS 18mmx12mm (2X) 22MP back-illuminated CMOS (5760x3840)

continuous shooting : 22MP - 6fps / 5.5MP - 20fps

movie clips :1920x1080 30p/24p/25p

ISO : 100-6400

Expansion options : 25 - 25600

KIT - 12-75 f2.8-4.0 IS Macro (1:2) & 75-300 f3.5-5.6 IS

新功能 : 像素合併採樣功能,高 ISO 畫質很好
新錄影功能: 3 倍像素合成功能,可以把 9 個像素點合成為一個顯像點
支援 EF 鏡頭轉接 AF (焦長一樣 2X)
dual SD,dual push-button
touches controls the screen

EIS lens (2011) -

5mm f4.0 fisheye
8-25mm f4.0
14mm f2.0
25mm f1.2
45mm f1.5
60mm f2.0 Macro

目前知道..EIS 系統不會有任何比 100mm 長的鏡頭..

2010 年初已經展開內部測試
2011 Q1 公布並量產

Taiwan / Chinese (traditional)
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=244&t=1749546&last=22287751
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 02:30:54 PM by Cire »

canon rumors FORUM

Canon EVIL (EIS)
« on: September 10, 2010, 01:50:57 PM »

Cire

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 02:27:26 PM »
Canon内部已经明确命名正在研发的EVIL相机为EIS系列相机,并配套开发系列EIS镜头。
EIS是英文“Electro Image System"的缩写,以区别于“Electro Optical System"(EOS),是专注于摄影摄像一体化的系列相机。

首款EIS 60相机将采用Canon最新开发的2200万象素小尺寸背照式CMOS,传感器尺寸正好是全幅的1/4,即18mmX12mm,相对135的镜头系数为1:2,图像分辨率达到惊人的5760*3840,首发的配套镜头为12-75/2.8-4 IS macro(通过按钮可切换为1:2放大倍率,相当于全幅1:1)和75-300/3.5-5.6 IS。均为可伸缩镜头。
该机全象素连拍速度为6张/s,550万象素连拍速度最高为20张/s,新设计的CMOS支持象素合并采样技术,550万象素采样时可以获得极佳的高感光度效果,iso 6400达到实用水平。
视频采样支持1920*1080/30P/24P/25P,视频采样采用三倍象素融合技术,每九个点融合为一个采样点,由于获得硬件直接支持,所以速度很快,视频效果超越以往相机。
全像素采样原生ISO为100,合并象素和视频模式的原生ISO为400。合并象素支持2*2和3*3合并。
ISO支持100-6400,扩展模式支持25、50和12800、25600
Canon将为EIS相机推出一系列镜头,已知的列入研发计划的镜头包括5mm/4鱼眼镜头、8-25mm/4广角变焦镜头,14mm/2饼干头、25mm/1.2饼干头、45mm/1.5准饼干头、65mm/2.0 Macro(1:1,相当于全幅2:1)
Canon同期推出EF-EIS转接环,支持转接EF镜头并可以自动对焦,所以Canon短期内不会推出超过100mm的EIS长焦镜头。
EIS系列相机设计为双SD存储卡、双快门按钮,分别用于存储视频和照片,支持视频拍摄过程中不影像视频采集而随时采集静止照片,视频和照片采用不同的按钮。

China / Chinese (simplified)
http://pp.520dc.com/space.php?uid=56&do=thread&id=3021

LukeS

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 05:42:57 PM »
sensor : CMOS 18mmx12mm (2X) 22MP back-illuminated CMOS (5760x3840)

That is basically the same size as a four thirds sensor just in a 3:2 ratio.  I think we were all hoping for a larger APS-C sensor in a evil camera.  It will be interesting to see what this turns out to be, I am sure it will be pretty cool either way.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 05:50:00 PM by LukeS »

LukeS

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 05:52:20 PM »
Google translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobile01.com%2Ftopicdetail.php%3Ff%3D244%26t%3D1749546%26last%3D22287751
Quote
Electro Optical System

CMOS Size 18mmx12mm (APS-C than the small ... APS-C is 23.6x15.7), the equivalent focal length is 2X (similar to the 4 / three but it is 3:2)

Using back-illuminated pixels 22 million technology

Maximum resolution, the Continuous to six, 5760x3840
Reduced to 5.5 million pixels, the continuous shooting up to 20 can

New: Pixel merging sampling function, high ISO picture quality good

Video, 1920x1080 30p/24p/25p

New video features: 3 times pixel synthesis, can be synthesized into nine pixels for a scan point

Support the EF lens adapter AF (focal length, like 2X)

KIT is the 12-75 f2.8-4.0 IS Macro
The second teeth KIT is 75-300 f3.5-5.6 IS

Native ISO 100-6400
Use those two new features, native ISO 400 jump
Software expansion mode ISO 25 - 25600
Dual SD, dual shutter button
LCD is a touch next year also released the EIS lens
5mm f4.0 Fisheye
8-25mm f4.0 constant
14mm f2.0 biscuits
25mm f1.2
45mm f1.5
60mm f2.0 Macro

Know .. EIS system does not currently have any longer than the 100mm lens ..

Internal testing has started in early 2010
2011 Q1 release and production

=================================

Is not 9 / 11 Canon dishes out to end ... not sure ... short .. more fun La ....


With the show are: Pentax K5

Continuous follow the A55 CMOS 8 with a dust-drop-aluminum-magnesium alloy body
ISO can be expanded from 100 to 25600
On the Focus 18,
The new focusing system SAFOX IX + Dual SD card



http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://pp.520dc.com/space.php%3Fuid%3D56%26do%3Dthread%26id%3D3021&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhhyp0KmfQ81QC0teI39VGnRvxTqog
Quote
Canon launch of the second quarter of next year, EVIL cameras for the EIS series camera and lens supporting development series EIS

Heat 9 Eagle 2010-09-09 17:02
Canon has clearly named being developed within the EVIL camera as the EIS series cameras, and supporting the development series of EIS lens.
EIS is in English "Electro Image System" in the acronym, as distinct from the "Electro Optical System" (EOS), is focused on the integration of photography video series cameras.

First EIS 60 cameras will be developed using the latest Canon 22 million pixels of small size back-illuminated CMOS, sensor size is the whole site is just 1 / 4 of that 18mmX12mm, the relative coefficient of 135 1:2 lens, the image resolution of striking 5760 * 3840, starting the auxiliary lens 12-75/2.8-4 IS macro (through the button to switch to 1:2 magnification, the equivalent of full-size 1:1) and the 75-300/3.5-5.6 IS. Are retractable lens.
Pixel-wide continuous shooting speed of machine 6 / s, 550-megapixel continuous shooting speed of up to 20 / s, the new design of CMOS support for pixel sampling merger, 5.5 million pixel sampling can get excellent high sensitivity degree of effect, iso 6400 into practical use.
Video sample support 1920 * 1080/30P/24P/25P, video sampling with three times the pixel fusion, nine points for each integration point as a sample, as were the direct hardware support, so fast, the camera video effects than ever before.
Pixel-wide sampling of native ISO 100, pixel and video modes combined native ISO of 400. 2 * 2 pixels to support the merger and the merger of 3 * 3.
ISO support 100-6400, extension mode support 25.50 and 12800,25600
Canon will launch a series of EIS camera lens, known to include R & D program, including the lens 5mm / 4 fisheye ,8-25mm / 4 wide-angle zoom lens, 14mm / 2 biscuit head, 25mm/1.2 biscuit head, 45mm / 1.5 standard biscuit head, 65mm/2.0 Macro (1:1, 2:1 is equivalent to full-size)
Canon launch EF-EIS Ring over the same period, support the adapter and can autofocus EF lenses, so Canon will soon release the EIS more than 100mm telephoto lens.
EIS series of cameras designed for dual SD memory card, double the shutter button, each for storing video and photos, supports video capture video capture process at any time without video capture still photos, video and photos of different buttons.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 05:55:37 PM by LukeS »

hmmm

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2010, 07:24:26 PM »
This EIS stuff deserves to be moved to the home page as a new rumor-news item.

Anyway, the 18 x 12 sensor is 216 sq mm.   The Aps-c is 22.2x14.8 (329 sq mm), 4-3ds format is 17.3 x13 (225 sq mm)  (sourced from wikipedia).     So the sensor area is in line with 4-3ds, 96% of the image area.  For comparison, a G11 S95 1/1.7 sensor is only 7.6 x 5.7 (43 sq mm).

22 MP seems ridiculous at first, but it is lower in pixel density than the 15MP G9, or even the current crop of S90-95 and G11-12 cameras.     Having a mode that bins 4 pixels at a time gets you to the 5.5 MP mode they're talking about.   I would imagine that would improve low light performance as well as burst.

I think it's safe to say all the lenses they are talking about will not appear at once.

Very interesting stuff!

MintMark

  • PowerShot G1 X II
  • ***
  • Posts: 52
    • View Profile
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 03:23:09 AM »
It is interesting, but obviously there are so many open questions...

RichT

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 05:21:45 PM »
Very interesting, I wonder how they would implement both a 2x2 and 3x3 binning mode on a Bayer sensor?

canon rumors FORUM

Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 05:21:45 PM »

Grumpy

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2010, 02:31:11 AM »
Very interesting developement. I can use a small camera with reach from 24-600mm and option to use EF lenses through the EF-EIS converter.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2010, 02:58:30 AM by Grumpy »

Brick

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2010, 02:45:39 AM »
the first post is here: http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=782342&pagenumber=1

this poster is a umors-maker and untrustworthy,  he've posted at least 10 post but none is ture

in Chinese forum, on one believe this called EIS-60
« Last Edit: September 13, 2010, 02:47:34 AM by Brick »

backshot_especiale

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 03:49:43 AM »
Sounds good to me, I'm not interested in zooms for this kind of system, put it in a rangefinder style body, give it a short mount distance so I can put my old lenses on with an adapter and make the first party lenses great. Then I'll get this over a GF2.

earthrise

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2010, 07:53:54 AM »
Reading through all the google translated post it doesn't sound like a rumor so much as speculation on part of the original poster.  Think he's saying Canon have this tech and that tech, and therefore he's speculating they could do this.

Would be nice though  :D

ms

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2010, 10:25:07 AM »
ugh... why can't any of the main stream manufacturers build an FF EVIL? I know about the offset microlens issue but I'm sure Canon could handle that and they'd be the only ones outside of Leica to produce such a camera (and if you give it a big beautiful EV you enable things like macro and tele which you can't do with RF... nevermind the video that canon would obviously throw in).

Mark D5 TEAM II

  • 1D X
  • *******
  • Posts: 1176
  • Proud N0ink 0wnz0r / crApple iFruitcake H4t3r
    • View Profile
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 11:48:39 AM »
Waw. The "biscuit heads" is this year's new "JPEG anger quality of photometry". ;D
Nikon NSF16 5-Leaf Dual-Blade Industrial Fan ¦ Nikon NTMFI-H1 Dry Heavy Flat Iron ¦ Nikon Tough Mama NTMRC1-2S Rice Cooker “Limited Edition” ¦ Nikon Tough Mama NTMJK18-S Stainless Electric Kettle Plate Type ¦ Nikon NHT 2-in-1 Curling Iron & Straightener in One ¦ Nikon N4004s Decision Master System™

canon rumors FORUM

Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2010, 11:48:39 AM »

Mark D5 TEAM II

  • 1D X
  • *******
  • Posts: 1176
  • Proud N0ink 0wnz0r / crApple iFruitcake H4t3r
    • View Profile
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 11:54:02 AM »
The new Pi Sheti:


 :D  :D  :D

I hope it retains the DiGIC4 "phantom processor".

Quote
"the optical fiber the subtle difference, photographs a more splendid
phantom"

"DIGIC 4 digit phantom processor"

"22.3×14.9 millimeter CMOS size, single picture element size
approximately for 4.7μm, not can only present the splendid
phantom which exquisitely the lens catch"
Nikon NSF16 5-Leaf Dual-Blade Industrial Fan ¦ Nikon NTMFI-H1 Dry Heavy Flat Iron ¦ Nikon Tough Mama NTMRC1-2S Rice Cooker “Limited Edition” ¦ Nikon Tough Mama NTMJK18-S Stainless Electric Kettle Plate Type ¦ Nikon NHT 2-in-1 Curling Iron & Straightener in One ¦ Nikon N4004s Decision Master System™

JLN

  • Guest
Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 08:54:35 PM »
22mp 2x crop factor sensor? doesn't sound particularly likely, and if its true then no thanks.

Secondly I was hoping for EF (and at the very least ef-s) mount compatability, I want to be able to use my existing lenses.

If i have to purchase a new set of lenses just for this camera, then whats the point of waiting for the canon offering aside from brand loyalty (pfft).

canon rumors FORUM

Re: Canon EVIL (EIS)
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 08:54:35 PM »