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EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« on: August 03, 2013, 11:08:50 AM »

Canon EOS 7D Mark II

We’re told there is zero chance of a 7D Mark II in 2013. The camera is currently slated for release in the second half of 2014. We’re told the final specifications of the camera are far from complete, but it will have the same 20.2mp sensor as the EOS 70D. As well as the Dual Pixel AF and built-in GPS. At present, it will not have wifi, though this could change for the final product.


This all seems very plausible. I would think Canon wants to see what kind of success they have with the revamped xxD line. The 70D looks like an APS-C winner spec wise, we’ll have to wait and see how people feel about it in the real world.


The same person also said a new lower end camera would be released in the first half of 2014. Nothing was mentioned about the fabled big megapixel camera that Canon is working on.


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EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« on: August 03, 2013, 11:08:50 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2013, 11:14:17 AM »
Rather dissapointing news really. I was hoping the 7D2 would have some new tricks rather than just a 70D in wolfs clothing. Oh well!
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2013, 11:18:25 AM »
Rather dissapointing news really. I was hoping the 7D2 would have some new tricks rather than just a 70D in wolfs clothing. Oh well!
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2013, 11:23:58 AM »
If they put in wifi, there's no reason not to use the same radio as an RF Speedlite controller. (Both use the 2.4 GHz band.) Might require either a custom IC or an unusually flexible wifi chipset, but should be doable at reasonably low cost.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2013, 11:47:54 AM »
So who is this camera really intended to appeal to?  Not trolling, but I am confused.  Is the sensor that much better than the current 7D to entice current 7D owners to upgrade?  Will the new dual pixels change af much for sports/wildlife photog work?  Is the image quality from the sensor a great step up from the current 7D?

I don't have a 7D, but was considering the 7D2 for extra reach to supplement my 5D3 for wildlife photography as a more affordable alternative to some 10K lenses or perhaps extenders. 

So how does this stack up against the 70D?

Just wondering.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2013, 11:49:00 AM »
Surely something significant will be included in the 7DII to differentiate it from the 70D. But what?

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2013, 11:50:02 AM »
So after a year more development time it will be a 70D WITHOUT wifi.... and probably for at least $500 more.... I don't think so...

Canon said things like groundbreaking and revolutionary.... while less features for more money would certainly be different, sales would be slow....

I don't believe this rumour for a second.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2013, 11:50:02 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 11:56:40 AM »
Despite its age, the current 7D is still a very capable camera, and one at that which has had quite an impact on the photography community. Maybe Canon wants the next iteration to be that much better?

And when I think about it, I suspect there was a very good reason why Canon released that v2 firmware not too long, and it was more than just updating the camera. It was more about making it relevant for even longer. I'm currently thinking about upgrading from my XSi, and the upcoming 70D looks enticing, but there's always the 7D as another consideration. Then again, I could always wait even longer for the 7D MKII in the hope that it's just that much better.

But why should I wait when I've been using an entry-level camera for the past 4 years? Any upgrade will be beneficial regardless of the camera these days. I don't know, we'll see.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 11:57:38 AM »
I was hoping for a more light-sensitive sensor in the 7DII. This dual pixel thing seems to be more for video. Well, I guess no other way than full frame, then. I wish they at least announce it soon so that I can plan slowly replacing my EF-S lenses...
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 12:20:04 PM »
The days of "having" to upgrade crop bodies is pretty much over. There's no reason to swap or sell a 7D for any other crop body. However, there is one feature which would change that, and that is in-camera IS.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 12:20:22 PM »
  Hopefully the body will be the same size as the current 7D or larger to fit us with larger hands.  Other wants in the new 7DII would be Magnesium body, Fully weather sealed, 100% view finder, On board Flash controller, built in Introvalometer, a rear facing sensor for wire less remote, 24 megapixels and a flip out screen.  All this and keeping the same features of the current 7D would be a nice camera.  As far as Wi-Fi, I could care less about that.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 12:48:56 PM »
It needs something besides weather sealing to justify a big premium over 70d.  I will not pay 200% of the 70d just to get PARTIAL protection against a hazard which is only 10% likely to even happen in the 4 - 5 years before I'd be thinking a body is due for replacement anyway.  (I am not Bear Grylls and don't pretend to be).

They evidently won't have a better ISO or DR sensor. I doubt there will be a Digic 7 in the cards for this body.  What does that leave?  They will probably add some AF points. Perhaps they might give it a 1x form factor.  I honestly dont want any more FPS than the old 7d has, because of the hassle dealing with hundreds or thousands of images, most of which are essentially fast burst duplicates.  I personally have no desire for better video than what 70d will have.

Not sure that is enough.

I like the idea of built in RT transmitter, and it would be easy to include.   Also, is there any way at all that dual-pixel tech could do expanded DR, like quasi-HDR or something? 
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2013, 01:11:40 PM »

IF the 7D2 has the same sensor as the 70D...

1)  Shame on Canon.  7D2 is the standard bearer for APS-C.  It must have the best sensor they have.  A year old sensor is a weak offering there.  I am not saying this for megapixel reasons, but for the fact that a flagship body should have top to bottom new tech at its core. 

2) Everything else about this camera had better be gangbusters -- better build, 10-12 FPS (entirely possible with 2014 processing power against only a 20 MP sensor), the 1DX/5D3 AF system, etc.

This was supposed to be a camera costing more than the 6D, the 'pro APS-C rig' for birders and sports guys with huge glass, etc.  But for the first major design decision we've heard of, this is a poor way to justify that kind of money.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2013, 01:12:38 PM »
The days of "having" to upgrade crop bodies is pretty much over. There's no reason to swap or sell a 7D for any other crop body....


Yes there is: much better ISO performance. I use mine for 'action photography' ie motorsports and wildlife and I unfortunately find that I'm often using iso 1600+ to get both the DOF and shutter speeds I want. Interestingly this is the body I would soonest replace. The 5D2 is miles ahead in image quality.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 01:13:53 PM »
DSLR development appears to be reaching a plateau, and sales seem to be reflecting this. The 70D is basically a consumerized version of the 7D, similar to how the 6D was a consumerized version of the 5D2. I don’t really think there is as much room for a 7D2, as the 70D is probably good enough to basically replace it. The image quality of the 6D/5D3, and the AF advantages of the 5D3 probably have also sliced off a significant share of potential buyers. There is likely a bean counter somewhere that has figured they would be better selling more 70Ds, 6Ds, and 5D3s than having to produce and market another camera in the current economic climate. By next year these cameras will all be mid-cycle when they can re-evaluate the marketplace and put out a 7D2 to goose sales if it makes sense.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2013, 01:13:53 PM »