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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2013, 07:56:47 AM »
Interesting. I can see myself upgrading to the new model when prices level out because it's a safe bet the new 100-400 will outperform the old model, and the 200-400 is out of my reach both in budget and bulk anyway. I'm hoping for the same sort of image quality improvement of the 70-200 f/2.8 IS Mk I vs MkII.

Note: I challenge you all not to have any more discussions about push/pull vs rotary zoom!!!  Let's wait and see what Canon comes up with... :o  ???  ::)
+1 on the price of the 200-400 way out my budget.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2013, 07:57:36 AM »
I hope they keep the push pull method... :)
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2013, 08:21:56 AM »
Come on Sigma, make 400/4 OS for crop cameras and kill them all 8)

The Canon f/2.8 300mm II with a 1.4xTC III is a 420/4 IS with MTFs, AF and quality of construction that Sigma could only dream about (at a price, unfortunately).

Sigma couldn't design a better lens than Canon?  (*cough* 35/1.4 *cough*)  And have you seen the new Sports-series 120-300/2.8 OS?  No, it's not a 300 II - but it's a zoom, and still comes close...especially at half the price!

Optically the 120-300 is very strong, but it's not in the same league as the top Canon Whites. All the other parts of the Sigma are lagging too. The IS and AF...again, the Canon Whites are in a different league. The Siggi lens is a very god lens, the Canon Whites are exceptional and state of the art...which is why they are SO expensive.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2013, 08:49:26 AM »
I hope they keep the push pull method... :)

I'm pretty sure they won't, but rejoice, no one prevents you form grabbing the lens hood and just pull/push that, at least that's what I often do with my 70-300L.

An announcement and release may depend on how fast Canon can sell off existing stock of the 100-400.

Canon should just leak the price of the mk2, then the existing stock of the mk1 will be gone in no time just like the 24-70 mk1 was :-p

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2013, 10:06:05 AM »
Canon could loose a lot of business by "delaying" their new 100-400 for tactical reasons if that is the case. So what are the alternatives?

The latest Sony 70-400 is reputedly sharp especially at 400/5.6 and pretty good value.

More expensive is the new Nikon 80-400 - also pretty good.

(Personally I don't like the telescopic designs of either but suspect that the Canon will also drop their robust push/ pull and offer the same).

I can't see the 100-400 - if it is that - being any cheaper. With camera bodies being relatively cheap quite a few loyal Canon customers might say can't wait so lets switch brands just this once to get a decent 400 zoom now. Brand loyalty is basically stupid and only suits the manufacturer.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2013, 10:35:33 AM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2013, 10:38:40 AM »
Canon could loose a lot of business by "delaying" their new 100-400 for tactical reasons if that is the case. So what are the alternatives?

The latest Sony 70-400 is reputedly sharp especially at 400/5.6 and pretty good value.

More expensive is the new Nikon 80-400 - also pretty good.

(Personally I don't like the telescopic designs of either but suspect that the Canon will also drop their robust push/ pull and offer the same).

I can't see the 100-400 - if it is that - being any cheaper. With camera bodies being relatively cheap quite a few loyal Canon customers might say can't wait so lets switch brands just this once to get a decent 400 zoom now. Brand loyalty is basically stupid and only suits the manufacturer.

This is especially true of bird/wildlife shooters.  Many have the lens permanently attached to their body and use it for one purpose (myself included).  I would have no issues switching systems for the birding I do, as the camera/lens is just a tool and birding is our first hobby. 

But at the same time I don't like switching to a new tool until there are much better solutions available.  I'll likely wait until next year for Canon's response and then choose the best system to go with.  I would prefer a prime this time around but so far no one is releasing an updated light hand holdable prime with the latest IS (ie. 300mm f4+tc or 400mm f5.6).
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2013, 10:38:40 AM »

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2013, 11:27:29 AM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.

This statement has been made before for new Canon products and is almost definitely untrue - I expect the new lens to easily be priced above 2k.
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2013, 11:50:59 AM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.

This statement has been made before for new Canon products and is almost definitely untrue - I expect the new lens to easily be priced above 2k.

So your saying it's not over due and not in demand and wouldn't be well received if it was under 2k?  ???
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2013, 12:17:19 PM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.

This statement has been made before for new Canon products and is almost definitely untrue - I expect the new lens to easily be priced above 2k.

So your saying it's not over due and not in demand and wouldn't be well received if it was under 2k?  ???
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2013, 12:17:24 PM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.

This statement has been made before for new Canon products and is almost definitely untrue - I expect the new lens to easily be priced above 2k.

So your saying it's not over due and not in demand and wouldn't be well received if it was under 2k?  ???

Corrected, see quote above. Also I'm sure this lens will be well received even though it will be priced above 2k
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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2013, 12:21:53 PM »
It's overdue, and in high demand. I'm sure this lens will be well received if it stays under 2k.

This statement has been made before for new Canon products and is almost definitely untrue - I expect the new lens to easily be priced above 2k.

So your saying it's not over due and not in demand and wouldn't be well received if it was under 2k?  ???

Corrected, see quote above. Also I'm sure this lens will be well received even though it will be priced above 2k
Still, it would be well received under 2K too  ::)

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2013, 12:22:45 PM »
OK, seriously now, I would want it below 2K but I believe it would be slightly above that...

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2013, 12:22:45 PM »

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2013, 01:38:28 PM »
The photographer in me is hoping for a home run on this lens,
and the banker in me is already crying.

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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2013, 01:46:15 PM »

Note: I challenge you all not to have any more discussions about push/pull vs rotary zoom!!!

Without wanting to get all Beavis and Butthead on your ass, any lens that "trombones", sucks. The only thing suckier than a tromboner (stop sniggering at the back) is a trombonist. Fact.

Quod erat demonstrandum, as Butthead would say.


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Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS Update [CR2]
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2013, 01:46:15 PM »