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Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« on: August 12, 2013, 09:54:46 AM »

From Magic Lantern

The folks at Magic Lantern have no cracked the EOS 5D Mark II and EOS 6D and made the cameras capable of shooting in “dual ISO mode” which increases dynamic range to 14 stops. We’ve seen this previously for the EOS 5D Mark III.


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Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« on: August 12, 2013, 09:54:46 AM »

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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 10:00:25 AM »
Does this mean that Canon will introduce it, or is it going to remain a third party software trick?

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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 10:10:36 AM »
forgive the naive question....this is for video purposes only correct? or their still applications for this as well?
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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 10:16:27 AM »
forgive the naive question....this is for video purposes only correct? or their still applications for this as well?

Definitely useful for stills, provided the loss of resolution isn't an issue for your needs.
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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2013, 10:27:24 AM »
forgive the naive question....this is for video purposes only correct? or their still applications for this as well?

Definitely useful for stills, provided the loss of resolution isn't an issue for your needs.

Lol I came on here to ask the same question! Has anyone tried it for stills? Am not a DR chaser but just curious. Guess I should just try it and see.
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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2013, 10:28:56 AM »
The folks at Magic Lantern have no cracked the EOS 5D Mark II and EOS 6D

Oh no, not again - ml doesn't "crack" anything, but they just modify the camera to use additional firmware from the card, and only this small part could be part "hack" if you are really keen to label it. All ml is original quality software that just uses canon hooks just like your browser uses your os' hooks to write text or display the window.

These differences might seem small to some, but it is keeping a lot of people from using ml which is regrettable b/c it's a good reason to stay with canon and more users might mean more support for ml, meaning faster/better code.

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 11:05:09 AM »
forgive the naive question....this is for video purposes only correct? or their still applications for this as well?

Definitely useful for stills, provided the loss of resolution isn't an issue for your needs.

As said before in other threads... Dual pixel technology is just begging for this.....
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2013, 11:05:09 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 11:49:41 AM »
Does anybody have any hands on experience with Magic Lantern Dual ISO on the 5D3 or 7D they want to share and/or pictures they can post?

Personally, I'll wait for the code to reach at least a Beta state before I kick the tires.
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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »
I'm not into video but it's cool to see development continuing for the 5D Mk II  8)
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Re: Dual ISO Makes its Way to the EOS 5D Mark II & EOS 6D
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 01:47:58 PM »
Does anybody have any hands on experience with Magic Lantern Dual ISO on the 5D3 or 7D they want to share and/or pictures they can post?

Look here: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7139.msg66196#msg66196

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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 02:07:10 PM »
Canon used to be the trendsetter, cutting edge technology leader. Here lately, they've been trying to just play catchup. Hey Canon, why does it take a dual ISO hack just to match the native DR from your competitor's sensor? My Nikon buddy used to be jealous of my equipment, but his work with his new D800 is blowing me away.  I'm not saying my Mark III isn't awesome, but I can't wait to see the possibilities with this dual pixel technology with not just AF but DR also.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 02:14:21 PM »
If I were canon I'd ask these highly creative guys to get on board. But maybe, they better do it their own way. Cause if they did, we might get asked to pay another premium for just that ;-)
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 02:50:41 PM »
This is intriguing but I have to admit ever since I bought my first 5DII a few years ago, I've been scared you-know-what-less to even think about putting ML on my bodies.  I'm now up to a 5DIII and still can't imagine putting unwarranted third party software on such an expensive device.  The prospect of turning my 5DIII in to a $3000 paperweight when something goes wrong is just too terrifying a prospect to contemplate.  And lest anyone accuse me of being a weak-kneed sissy on the subject, I have a master's degree in software engineering and work daily with custom-built, multi-million dollar software systems for the U.S. Air Force, some designed and written by me, some by others.  So I know the risks.  Software has often been described as the single most complex construct every devised by the mind of man.  The level of complexity and unpredictability in even the simplest software solutions can reach mind boggling proportions.  Once a software program advances beyond the typical, single line "Hello World" level of complexity, it can quickly become next to impossible to identify every possible execution path through the code, much less have the time and money to test all of those execution paths with every possible range of input and output parameters.  There are "best practice" approaches to keep the complexity level - and thus the testatbility, predictability, and maintainability - to within reasonable levels.  But in the end, it's still a might big risk to take if Canon is going to slam the door in your face when you come calling with a bricked and useless camera that got that way because you put a piece of unauthorized third party software on it.

I'm not saying anyone who uses ML should stop, but before I took that plunge, I sure would like to hear about the experiences - both good and bad - from a whole hell of a lot of people who have actually used it.

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 02:50:41 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2013, 03:04:25 PM »
My question IS; Why if ML can do it, Why won't Canon? not why can't Canon? As I've said for years Can/NIK keep feeding us dribbles instead of state of the art. If they used bit slice ADCs they could do much better also.

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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2013, 03:33:56 PM »
Canon wasn't ready to unleash the technology for us to utilize, then call it something different 5 years from now as they spoon feed us bit by bit on how they want us to use their technology at the right moment in time.

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