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Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« on: August 12, 2013, 09:42:39 PM »
I'm thinking of selling my Canon 24-105 f/4 with IS lens.  The two lenses I'm thinking of replacing it with are the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark I or the Tamron f/2.8 24-70 with VC. Has anyone used and/or compared both of these lenses?  I would like to hear of your experience if you have as well as your thoughts, inputs and recommendations. I would use this lens as my walk around lens, indoor functions, sunrises and sunsets on beach and video. As much as I'd like to have the Canon 24-70 MK II, it's a bit out of my budget.  For portraits I'm truly enjoying my 85mm f/1.8.
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Need Help with a 24-70 lens
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2013, 09:48:11 PM »
If you can find a MK I that works properly (most have issues that owners are not aware of), its not a upgrade.  I'd keep the 24-105 or buy a refurb MK II.

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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2013, 11:12:17 PM »
The 24-105 seem to me to be a perfect match for what you are shooting. Why bother with an older heavier lens unless you absolutely need the f2.8.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2013, 11:53:57 PM »
My vote is for the Tamron. It's faster, sharper and has better OS than everything but the mkll. And the Tamron's OS VC blows away the mkll's IS  ;)
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 01:12:16 AM »
I'm thinking of selling my Canon 24-105 f/4 with IS lens.  The two lenses I'm thinking of replacing it with are the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark I or the Tamron f/2.8 24-70 with VC. Has anyone used and/or compared both of these lenses?  I would like to hear of your experience if you have as well as your thoughts, inputs and recommendations. I would use this lens as my walk around lens, indoor functions, sunrises and sunsets on beach and video. As much as I'd like to have the Canon 24-70 MK II, it's a bit out of my budget.  For portraits I'm truly enjoying my 85mm f/1.8.

Tamron VC if you need f/2.8 and can't afford the 2.8 II.

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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2013, 06:59:29 AM »
Save money until you can afford the 24-70 2.8 ii. You will not regret it.

If you do video, you might as well hang on to your 24-105.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 08:55:02 AM »
I'm thinking of selling my Canon 24-105 f/4 with IS lens.  The two lenses I'm thinking of replacing it with are the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark I or the Tamron f/2.8 24-70 with VC.

I had five 24-70 f/2.8 MkI lenses over many years and they were all dogs. As a stop-gap until a 24-70 f/2.8II made its long over-due appearance, I switched to a 24-105 f/4is which was significantly better than any of the 24-70 MkI lenses. I now have a 24-70 f/2.8II which can only be described as stellar, but I can't quite bring myself to on-sell the 24-105. It's such a great lens. The extra reach is handy for events work and it makes a versatile travel lens.

If you can't make the $$ reach to a new 24-70 f/2.8II, keep the 24-105 you already have. It's a lot of photographers favourite lens for good reason.

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2013, 08:55:02 AM »

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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2013, 09:49:18 AM »

I had five 24-70 f/2.8 MkI lenses over many years and they were all dogs.

I had 3. First was bad (got it used). After a long time i bought a new one. It was great. I sold it for some primes. Now i got another one. Also great.

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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2013, 09:55:50 AM »
Whatever you do, don't sell the 24-105 in favor of a 24-70 f/2.8 Mk I. As said before, the 24-105 is a lot better. My 24-70 is for sale for this reason. The 24-105 is a great general purpose and travel lens. For low light I think I'll stick with primes.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2013, 10:18:56 AM »
I agree with the general consensus here. Don't buy a Mark I. If you insist on/absolutely must have a 28-70 f/2.8, the Tamron is a better choice. than a Mark I.

I just bought a Mark II that I'm hoping to take out this weekend, weather permitting, but I'm not ready to part with my 24-105, and I'm not sure I will be anytime soon.

On the other hand, you have an 85 f/1.8, a truly outstanding and underrated lens. That does fill the gap but you still may miss the high end of the zoom range on the 24-105.

One other consideration is which body you are using. If you are using a 5D3 or a 6D, there are image correction profiles available for Canon lenses only. These really help getting better results from less good lenses, but they do not, to my knowledge, exist for third party lenses such as the Tamron. In that case, I'd keep the 24-105 and save for the Mark II. It will be worth the wait.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2013, 11:08:50 AM »
I've had a few copies of the 24-70 f2.8L over the years, and all have been great; the only thing better is the 24-70 f2.8L II and it's really outstanding.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2013, 11:26:38 AM »
the one feature that is still much stronger than the MkII is the hood and zoom design, the MkI is brilliant and effective, the MkII is rubbish, cheap and ineffective, but I use hoods 100% of the time.

Agreed, with the reverse zoom design, the hood is always most effective. Also, because the hood mounts on the lens body, not the barrel, it is sturdier and great in rainy conditions because no water can get on the inner barrel.

That said, the 24-70 MkI is a bit of a monster to carry around, both for the audience (it's an intimidating piece of kit) and the photographer (it weighs approx a kilo and is front heavy, especially at wide angle). These are things one might consider next to image quality.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2013, 01:59:49 PM »
I'm thinking of selling my Canon 24-105 f/4 with IS lens.  The two lenses I'm thinking of replacing it with are the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 Mark I or the Tamron f/2.8 24-70 with VC. Has anyone used and/or compared both of these lenses?  I would like to hear of your experience if you have as well as your thoughts, inputs and recommendations. I would use this lens as my walk around lens, indoor functions, sunrises and sunsets on beach and video. As much as I'd like to have the Canon 24-70 MK II, it's a bit out of my budget.  For portraits I'm truly enjoying my 85mm f/1.8.

I owned the 24-105 for a while before getting the 24-70 Tamron 2.8 VC.  I shot a few test charts, and the Tamron was sharper in the center @ F/2.8 than the Canon was @ F/4.  This was having both manually focused on my 5d3 to isolate the AF microadjustment.  The Tamron is not perfect; it vignettes wide open and I don't like the colors quite as well, but it's the only game in town for 2.8, 24-70 and IS.  I use mine all the time.

Here's a raw 5d3 video I shot Saturday with the Tamron @ around F/4.5 to give you some idea of the look:

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Not saying the Canon 24-105 is bad - it's lighter and has more range.  The biggest thing for me was I shoot a lot of video, and the IS motor on the 24-105 is really noisy during playback.  The 24-70 Tamron is very quiet (but the focus ring in noisy).  Sigh.  There is no perfect lens.

If Canon made a 24-70 2.8 with IS I'd get it immediately.
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 08:25:43 PM »
Unless you can go with the Mark II version of Canon's 24-70, I would suggest you stay away from their Mark I.

If you really want f/2.8 look at the Tamron. It is an exception lens! Superior IS to the 24-105 and sharper. Also comes with a 6 year warranty!!!!
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Re: Need Help with a 24-70 lens
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 10:04:12 PM »
Just something to be aware of with the Tamron. If you use a 5D3, some of the 24-70's have a weird problem with extreme back-focus on the peripheral (outer) AF points. I sent my lens in 4 times, once with my camera, and Tamron kept sending it back saying it was fine. I finally got them to send me a replacement, I should get it on Thursday. If you google Tamron 24-70 5d III outer focus issue, peripheral focus issue or some derivation, you can see that other's have had the same problem. I wish I had noticed it before the end of my return window so that I didn't have to deal with Tamron. It is a sharp lens, and I'm not trying to say don't get the lens. I'm just saying to check for this phenomenon before your return window closes.

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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 10:04:12 PM »