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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 06:51:17 PM »
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    http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
    Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?  :D



It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99  and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping)  Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

It looks like the kit in the stock but i'm not sure it is realy in stock.
Because i give an order New York Photo & Camera and new day they refund my money because of the kit out of stock. Also if you check http://www.canonrumors.com/cameras/canon-rumors-price-watch/ for 5D, it shows buyding.com has the kit and buyding web site gives no warning, but there is no order/price link in the page :D
I' ll ship it to my friend in NJ and she'll handcarry it for me. If they send it directly to Turkey, customs apply %18tax :D

If you have friend in the States, you may consider to ask her to buy a refurbished one for you when it becomes available.
http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-5d-mark-ii-body-refurbished
Also ask your friend to take advantage of the Loyalty Program for an additional 15% off. That will save you some money. (Google Canon Loyalty program for details)
If white box lenses are as good as those come with retail boxes, they are sometimes 50% cheaper or less compare to the regular price.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-ef-24-105-4l-is-usm-lens/10075099.aspx?path=88ab0d6ee73f36461889686b4d8861d6en02&SearchPageIndex=1

You may consider to buy one of those.  Everything will add up to about $2300.
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 06:51:17 PM »

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2013, 06:53:52 PM »
6D has policarbon top cover, 5D has magnesium .
6D has wi-fi and GPS. Antennas need to "see out". Any camera body with these features will not have a metal top, unless it has antennas sticking out.

6D is new but flash syns is 180, 5D has 200
A stupid move by Canon designed to convince stupid people people that there's a difference. it's 0.2 stop. It makes NO difference but you can use high-speed sync if you really need a faster sync. Making that argument shows that you really do not understand photography.

6D has a smaller sensor (a litle bit)
But better image processing (a LOT). Better high ISO performance (a LOT). Better low light AF (a LOT). Built in lens corrections for light falloff and lateral color fringes. More FPS (if that appeals to you). Ultrafast SD card compatibility. Quiet mode. Better fill flash exposure (MUCH). Weighs 150g less - not sure why you see this as a disadvantage but I see it as an improvement.

6D has smaller viewfinder coverage etc.
They quote it at 97%. Measured it's closer to 98%. You think you can see that? Really?
 
6D is new and chipper (than i have question marks:D :D ) , weight just was an example :D
The body can be made from titanium, or polycarbon.
Huh?

You can spend/waste your money as you like. We have a saying in America about that.

Best of luck.
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2013, 07:23:40 PM »
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    6D has policarbon top cover, 5D has magnesium .

6D has wi-fi and GPS. Antennas need to "see out". Any camera body with these features will not have a metal top, unless it has antennas sticking out.
Thanks for wireless info, everthing is clear :D
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    6D is new but flash syns is 180, 5D has 200

A stupid move by Canon designed to convince stupid people people that there's a difference. it's 0.2 stop. It makes NO difference but you can use high-speed sync if you really need a faster sync. Making that argument shows that you really do not understand photography.
This is a diffrence, because it is not only 0.2 stop. If you can't sync 200, you can't use 1/200 with flash. (very rarely used, but i give this example for "something is missing/less quality"). Also shutter is 1/4000, it was 1/8000

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    6D has a smaller sensor (a litle bit)

But better image processing (a LOT). Better high ISO performance (a LOT). Better low light AF (a LOT). Built in lens corrections for light falloff and lateral color fringes. More FPS (if that appeals to you). Ultrafast SD card compatibility. Quiet mode. Better fill flash exposure (MUCH). Weighs 150g less - not sure why you see this as a disadvantage but I see it as an improvement.

I know the advantages of 6D, but the sensor is still smaller. :D  Less weight is advantage, but for example you want tu buy  an Audi A8 (2012 product) and compare it with Audi A8 (2013 product). If 2013 is cheap what do you think? Is someting missing in 2013 or 2012 model was old?

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    6D has smaller viewfinder coverage etc.

They quote it at 97%. Measured it's closer to 98%. You think you can see that? Really?
I can' t see it, also this was an example about "something missing/less quality"
 
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    6D is new and chipper (than i have question marks:D :D ) , weight just was an example :D
    The body can be made from titanium, or polycarbon.

Huh?
Durability / weight / material science example :D

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You can spend/waste your money as you like. We have a saying in America about that.

Best of luck.

Thank you :D

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2013, 07:25:52 PM »
Thanks for all replays and info's
It is 2.30 AM in Turkey, time to sleep  8)

I'll forum tomarrow.
Best regards
Burak

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2013, 07:57:17 PM »
The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense.  Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures.  Also, why buy a 10-22 to match with full frame which has to be converted to fit, and then you still can't go below 13 or 14mm without getting mirror damage and getting blacked out corners.  You could get a 17-40L for similar price and get about the same performance on full frame.  To each their own of course, but I sure don't understand it. 

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 08:22:25 PM »
I would have suspicions that this is a "joke" thread.  Sorry op

The 6D is a better camera than the 5Dii in so many ways: image, weight, focus 5dii has a relatively terrible focus system compared to the current generation of full frame cameras, wifi, gps, frame rate, high iso performance

If you want a wide angle lens for a full frame the 8-15L fish eye is a surprisingly sharp lens that is actually designed to work on full frame canons, and it works with limitations on crop canons cameras as well.

If the op is for real read the digital picture's review on the 6D. Here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx


   
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 03:10:47 AM »
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The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense.  Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures.  Also, why buy a 10-22 to match with full frame which has to be converted to fit, and then you still can't go below 13 or 14mm without getting mirror damage and getting blacked out corners.  You could get a 17-40L for similar price and get about the same performance on full frame.  To each their own of course, but I sure don't understand it. 

I already have 10-20 f3.5. I' ll not use it with my new camera, i'll sell my 10-20..
Image quailty / ISO/ processor etc. is better in 6D, but still i think it has some tech. advantages but not the mechanical. For examle shutter is 100.000 (it was 150.000). I know take 100.000 photos is not easy, maybe the difference is only because of fps.
I can but 6D maybe later, but not now. Because it will be in stocks for a while.

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2013, 03:21:22 AM »
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I would have suspicions that this is a "joke" thread.  Sorry op

The 6D is a better camera than the 5Dii in so many ways: image, weight, focus 5dii has a relatively terrible focus system compared to the current generation of full frame cameras, wifi, gps, frame rate, high iso performance

If you want a wide angle lens for a full frame the 8-15L fish eye is a surprisingly sharp lens that is actually designed to work on full frame canons, and it works with limitations on crop canons cameras as well.

If the op is for real read the digital picture's review on the 6D. Here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

Nice review, thank you. I have added 8-15L to my list of "things to done before married"
Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2013, 05:53:54 AM »

Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper


I do believe you have miscalculated here regarding market development over time. The U.S. market receives new goods very early and at good prices, while in other countries you lag behind in when new goods are released and in many areas prices are much higher, too. As a consequence the window of opportunity shopping for 5D Mark IIs is long gone, except in case you are looking for used ones. What you should do is to drop your market view based on what is available in Turkey and make a decision on what is available overall.

My advise would be to check your opportunities based on what you can get based on checking internet offerings. In this way you can learn what is currently available for any given market. That is quick and you can make a decision without traveling abroad. Here you must be careful to find out, which internet vendors are reputable in the area and which ones are not so. In this forum you will find a lot of information about this topic.

Purchasing a 6D now in the U.S. is certainly not a bad idea. You cannot expect prices to go down significantly except for temporary price drops to boost seasonal sales, so waiting is of limited benefit. Maybe prices will go down later on due to some future market development, but such changes cannot be safely expected.
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2013, 07:25:09 AM »
You know the Canon 10-22 will not work with the 5DII, right?
10-20 f/3.5
assuming he's talking about the sigma, it will, just very bad vignetting up until probably around the 16-17mm mark.

Used 5D mark IIs are definitely cheap, but it is harder to find a completely new one.  The 6D's are better for getting new, plus they're just completely newer and perform that little bit better than a 5D II.  The only real advantage I see with a 5D II is a better body.
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2013, 10:56:32 AM »

Nice review, thank you. I have added 8-15L to my list of "things to done before married"
Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper
The 6D has been around for a year, so you are right, it will be discontinued in another year or two and then it will be cheaper.  However, the low prices right now are due to the poor economy.  If the economy improves, prices will jump.
 
If you can find a 5D MK II kit for under 3,000, that's as low as I've seen one.  Just a new body often sells for higher than that.  There are so few available that sellers can get high prices.
I've had two of them, nice cameras, but I'd buy a 6D in a instant if I did not already have a 5D MK III.  I'll be watching the dual pixel evolution, it will likely have a 2nd generation in the next FF body.

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2013, 11:32:28 AM »
The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense.  Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures.

Maybe, but the OP was quite clear, several times. He wants the 5D2, period.

He could try ebay, reputable sellers (they exist).

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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2013, 12:48:38 PM »
Looks like B&H has a used one (condition 8+) available for $1499.99.
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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2013, 12:50:26 PM »
...body only.  I know here (near Toronto, Canada), a new 24-105 f/4 can be had on Craigslist in the area of $700.   I'm sure the same would be true in New Jersey.
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Re: I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2013, 01:36:38 PM »
Pssst... go to CanonRumors.com... at the top of the home page... there is a section called "Price Watch," located under the search box. Go to Cameras and click on EOS, you will find your Mark II there... hurry cause there isn't much stock in many places.
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2013, 01:36:38 PM »