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EOS M and Vintage Glass
« on: August 16, 2013, 08:14:04 AM »
I have started a journey of using the EOS M with my collection of vintage glass. I have tried a variety of M42 lenses along with a Konica AR lens.  It's a great platform because there is no fear of mirror hangup and focusing seems fairly easy.  Here's one taken with one of my favorite vintage lens - the Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 lens.


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6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 10:29:35 AM »
pehaps a canon blessed and manufactured FD lens adapter would help this sick puppy and give people a reason to buy one.

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 10:30:14 AM »
pehaps a canon blessed and manufactured FD lens adapter would help this sick puppy and give people a reason to buy one.

That would be a nice thing.  I think the possibilities for adapters are pretty much endless because of the huge flange distance and the lack of a mirror.
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 10:31:42 AM »
Here's one from the EOS M and Helios 44-4 combo:

6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 02:08:50 AM »
Hi Dustin,

I like the first shot..interesting bokeh & love the flare...must try some old lenses with my Eos M...anybody know if you can get a 4x5 lens to Eos M converter?? :)

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2013, 11:52:07 PM »
pehaps a canon blessed and manufactured FD lens adapter would help this sick puppy and give people a reason to buy one.

There's nothing wrong with the FD adapters available on Amazon and eBay. Well machined, infinity focus, no optical degradation (no glass elements). I use one with a 55mm FL macro I picked up for nothing on eBay.

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 10:25:28 AM »
Here's one taken with the Super Takumar 150mm f/4 M42 lens and then run through Alien Skin's Snap Art 3


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The Super Tak 150 has really, really nice color rendering.
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 10:25:28 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2013, 09:26:19 AM »
I would really really love a tilt adaptor, the likes of what Kippon already make for Sony NEX and M43 at modest cost.  There is a Nikon F to EOS M tilt shift, but at prohibitive cost, not to mention finding a wide angle Nikon mount lens with manual aperture and enough image circle for the tilt / shift...

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2013, 11:51:51 PM »
Dustin - Nice work with the 44-M2. I have yet to try out any of my 44-Mx on the M but am a little more excited to now thanks to you.

Had a couple minutes today to play around so I mounted the Zenitar 50/1.7 on the M and tried to chase my 7 year old around while he played real life Minecraft. And yes, they are not 100% in focus. MF + 7 year old = exactly that sometimes.

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2013, 04:29:16 AM »
SQUARE bokeh?!

That's the first time I've seen that!
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2013, 08:47:39 AM »
Does anybody know if OM lenses rest wide open, or rest at set aperture?
Seen a OM tilt adaptor to EF-m, just windering about practicalities (i.e. am I stuck wirh a wide open aperture always, or can I control it, I know there is an aperture ring on less, I just recall someting anout the shutter being cocked bon OM bodies)

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2013, 12:33:23 PM »
SQUARE bokeh?!

That's the first time I've seen that!

Indeed. 2 bladed aperture. Cool thing is that there is a little bit of play room with the adapter since it is screw mount so you can change the angle of the squares.

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2013, 07:06:27 PM »
Does anybody know if OM lenses rest wide open, or rest at set aperture?
Seen a OM tilt adaptor to EF-m, just windering about practicalities (i.e. am I stuck wirh a wide open aperture always, or can I control it, I know there is an aperture ring on less, I just recall someting anout the shutter being cocked bon OM bodies)

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With my cheap OM to EOS adaptor (no chip; purely a mechanical piece of machined metal), there's a little screw/pin in the right place, so that the OM lens stays at the aperture you set. So when the shutter goes, the OM lens' aperture doesn't need to change. Also it helps with metering, cos the camera has no way of knowing what aperture the lens is set to anyway, so it pretty much has to work this way.

I've used my OM lenses quite happily on both my 7D when I had it, and my 5D3 now.

This comparison I did might be of some small interest, but the only aim at the time was to discover things about which lens was fastest/brightest, and what the bokeh was like. It compares about 5 different OM 50mm lenses and the Canon 50mm f/1.4 lens.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4505135767033.1073741834.1849695638&type=1&l=eb457b7c51

On an OM *body*, obviously, the iris DOES move when the shutter goes. So when you're composing, it's wide-open, and when you fire, something in the body (a pin or lever, I guess) actuates the lever on the lens to stop down the iris.

In "Program" modes on OM bodies, you set the lens to the most-closed aperture you want to allow the body to use (typically f/16, the slowest aperture), and then the camera will "decide" what aperture to set the lens to when you fire, so it's more advanced in that case than just opening/shutting the iris. It also decides what shutter speed to use. I don't know what the algorithm is, i.e. whether it favours the fastest shutter speed it can get (using max aperture at the expense of DOF), cos I never use the program modes.

Back to the EOS M, I am waiting very impatiently for the high-end one to come out, which assuming I still have a job and am still alive and well enough to bother, I will probably buy as soon as I find one available. I intend to get the EF adaptor and use my 50mm f/1.8 (i.e. very small/compact) with it, sometimes. I think it'll be fun! Just bring the damn thing out, already!
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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2013, 07:06:27 PM »

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2013, 06:58:36 AM »
Many thanks

Sold a few OMs but never owned, I remembered the deal with the shutter being cocked, didn't understand the internals of the lens coupling enough to know how it all worked, but you've answered my question.

So I fancy the kippon OM-EF=m tilt adaptor...  can you recommend any OM UWA lenses?  Third party is fine.

Need to see if I can make it all add up.

Cheers 

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2013, 08:25:26 AM »
Here's one with the Helios (same as my first post on the thread), except stopped down some (preset version, so no hard f/stops).  It becomes a whole different animal stopped down.  Very sharp and with none of the artistic imperfections that it has wide open.


EOS M and Vintage Helios by Thousand Word Images by Dustin Abbott, on Flickr
6D x 2 | EOS-M w/22mm f/2 + 18-55 STM + EF Adapter| Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 | Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC | 35mm f/2 IS | 40mm f/2.8 | 100L | 135L | 70-300L -----OLD SCHOOL----- SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5, Super Takumar 35mm f/3.5, SMC Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-2 and 44-4, Super Takumar 150mm f/4

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Re: EOS M and Vintage Glass
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2013, 08:25:26 AM »