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Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« on: August 16, 2013, 10:33:26 AM »
I have had the 24-70/2.8 II for a couple of months and I realise now that I have not used the 35/1.4 since. Obviously an f1.4 can do things a f2.8 can't but is DOF really an issue for a wide lens? And I have the 5D MKIII so light/ISO is not that much of a problem either. I was just about to put the 35/1.4 up for sale but I simply can not make up my mind.... Opinions are more than welcome.
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Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 10:44:59 AM »
I can't recall having used my 35mmL since I bought my 24-70L MK II.  I love the 35L, but with my 5D MK III, I can bump the ISO a stop or two easily enough.
 
I may still use it in some cases, but I'm beginning to think of parting with it.

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 10:45:20 AM »
I sold my 24 f1.4 L II, my 35 and my 50 when I got the 2470 II, I have honestly not regretted it ONCE. Not once. The AF accuracy and IQ of the 2470 combined with "Always having the right focal" is just the winner for
Me.

In combo with the 70-200 it's fantastic range with fantastic everything .

Ps, and this comes from a worshipper of the 35 L, I used it for 90% of my shots.
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 10:47:46 AM »
Unless you running low in cash, I would keep the 35L for extreme low light case. Even with 24-70 II on hand, I still shoot with 50L & 85L II in darkness ;)

L lenses hold value quite well...sell now or later? It's up to you.
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 10:53:32 AM »
I'm having the same experience with my f/2.8 II (and 70-200 f/2.8 II).  Those lenses combined with my 5D MkIII have made my f/1.2, 1.4, and 2 (other than the 85 f/1.2 II) collect a lot of dust :(  I'm seriously considering selling my 24, 35, 50, and 135, which I couldn't even begin to imagine not too long ago. 

Unless you're shooting events (i.e. very low light where you'd be at f/2.8, 1/60s, and ISO 6400+), sports (to stop motion), need really shallow DOF, or require lower distortion (only real weakness of the 24-70 f/2.8 II IMHO), the 24-70 f/2.8 II will be your best bet.

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 12:06:25 PM »
Close focus, something I really like at wide angles, is apparently a problem for the 24-70 2.8 II.
But close focus is a strength of the 24 and 28 2.8 IS lenses, and probably also with the wide 1.4's

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 12:09:36 PM »
Close focus, something I really like at wide angles, is apparently a problem for the 24-70 2.8 II.
But close focus is a strength of the 24 and 28 2.8 IS lenses, and probably also with the wide 1.4's

I also read that before I bought it, it worried me. Haven't even thought about it until you mentioned it. I shoot up close but a non-issue for me. Try the 50 L up close  ::)
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 12:09:36 PM »

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »
Interesting topic, I'll be following this one! I've been considering selling my 24-70 f/2.8 Mk I in favor of a 35mm f/1.4 Sigma, but... can't justify the cost of the Sigma for the use it'll get. My 24-70 has been under heavy pressure by my 24-105 f/4 IS which is simply excellent for general purpose use (and I enjoy the added flexibility of the 70-105mm range). So what to do? I'm for sure my 24-70 has been gathering too much dust to justify keeping it, so it's up for sale - I'm waiting to get a good price. I may end up not replacing it by anything ( I have a Sigma 20 mm f/1.8, Canon 35mm f/2, Sigma 50 mm f/1.4 and Canon 50mm f/1.8 Mk I).

Anyway, still need to make up my mind...
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 12:23:31 PM »
The main reason to keep the 35/1.4L is for wide angle shots with shallow DoF - something you can't really do with the 24-70/2.8L II.  At least, that's why I've hung onto mine.  As a low light lens, after getting the 1D X with it's high ISO performance, f/2.8 is generally sufficient and for many situations the DoF of f/1.4 is too shallow (unless that's the look I'm going for, which it certainly is, sometimes).
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 12:26:50 PM »
The main reason to keep the 35/1.4L is for wide angle shots with shallow DoF - something you can't really do with the 24-70/2.8L II.  At least, that's why I've hung onto mine.  As a low light lens, after getting the 1D X with it's high ISO performance, f/2.8 is generally sufficient and for many situations the DoF of f/1.4 is too shallow (unless that's the look I'm going for, which it certainly is, sometimes).

That's one consideration... upgrade the lenses or the body. The 1DX is certainly something else, but wish I could chop off the grip on holidays for compactness.
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 12:29:42 PM »
Depends on use.  Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II surely can replace 35L or other fast primes for shooting landscapes, studio/strobe work, product photography, etc, but for non-studio portraits, shallow DOF photography, and low-light photography, I still prefer to use 35L.  My feelings may change if 24-70 could achieve at least f/2 aperture at 70 mm end, which will make for a nicer non-studio people shots for me, which is why hope the rumored Sigma 24-70 f/2 is a good one..

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 03:01:09 PM »
Before the 24-70 II, I covered the range exclusively with primes.  In good light, the 24-70 II is the choice.  But when the sunlight fades or if I'm indoors, the fast primes come out.  It's nice having the additional two stops of aperture to trade for DOF or ISO/shutter speed.  For me, it's not the 35L that is the most threatened by the 24-70, but the 24mm prime. 

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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 03:09:07 PM »
I had similar situation .
After buying 70-200mkii my 85Lmkii gathered dust for over a year. I sold the 85 and about a month later had a bad case of buyers remorse

But with 24-70mkii I was never tempted to sell the 35
The 35L just gets a look that the 24-70ii can't achieve.
I sold my 50/1.4 as the optics were in a lower class, but the 35L is my fave prime
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 03:18:39 PM »
Since I received my 24-70 2.8 II I don't use my 35 1.4 or 50 1.4 nearly as much on my 6D.  I only use the primes when I'm looking for extremely shallow DOF now.

My 50 1.4 gets a fair amount of use these days on my EOS-M as a portrait lens.
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 03:24:58 PM »
I had similar situation .
After buying 70-200mkii my 85Lmkii gathered dust for over a year. I sold the 85 and about a month later had a bad case of buyers remorse
But with 24-70mkii I was never tempted to sell the 35
The 35L just gets a look that the 24-70ii can't achieve.
I sold my 50/1.4 as the optics were in a lower class, but the 35L is my fave prime

Ouch :(

I hate the slow AF on my 85L II....however, everytimes I shoot portrait, 85L II is my 1st choice. The bokeh and sharpness are amazing. I hope newer version will be faster and lighter.
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Re: Can 24-70/2.8 II replace 35/1.4?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 03:24:58 PM »